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Subject: Re: Deep Junior can win against Kasparov. I believe in Deep Junior!!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:26:49 01/27/03

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On January 27, 2003 at 11:17:40, Marc van Hal wrote:

>On January 26, 2003 at 11:23:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2003 at 03:28:59, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On January 26, 2003 at 01:11:00, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that this is one of the most important things, still most important
>>>than the hardware.  Of course, we need to see how strong is Kasparov against
>>>computers now, almost 6 years after he lose against Deep Blue in 1997.
>>>
>>>Opening is very important, but if you select a dual Xeon 2.0 GHz with an Opening
>>>Book and a Quad 2.8 GHz without Opening Book, who do you think that will play
>>>stronger?
>>
>>Against a human?  I'd likely take the quad 2.8 without the book.
>
>Do you think Gary would be afraid to play the Petrov?

I doubt it, but then all programs won't play 1. e4 either, with no book.

>>Especialy without book
>but the point is that most openings books are made in such way
>that you have to count on erors
>Why would you play for a draw or worse for a loss while you could have played a
>refutation instead?
>Also look when the programs start to understand the position well before you
>stop with inserting moves.

I think catching a GM with a book trap is _very_ unlikely.  Enough so that I
would rather have more horsepower for the middle/endgame, and take my chances
on the opening without a book, rather than maybe getting a decent opening
position but getting zapped with tactics later.

>
>A openingsbook should be suposed to be off help not of handicap.
>On the other hand if you would use a small openings book suprises will acure
>more often.
>Leaving Gary unprepared
>Then again it is more likely it will fall for some tactics which could have been
>avoided by using the book .
>
>Marc

Exactly.  It is a mixed bag.  Saves time.  Sometimes takes you to a good
position.  Sometimes to a bad position.  I once played Joel Benjamin a match
with Cray Blitz with no book(blitz games) and it did just as well without as
with...

>
>>
>>>
>>>>Very nice will be to see Kasparov losing again!
>>>
>>>That won't happen Kasparov is much stronger than he was in 1997 and also have
>>>more experience now playing against computer programs.
>>>
>>>Pichard
>>>
>>>>Go Go Go Junior!!! Show us your power! and Kick Kasparov butt   :) :) :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Tanya.



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