Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 14:48:21 01/28/03
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On January 28, 2003 at 17:27:34, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On January 28, 2003 at 13:38:48, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On January 28, 2003 at 10:26:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On January 28, 2003 at 00:59:21, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>On January 27, 2003 at 22:57:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On January 27, 2003 at 19:22:19, andrew tanner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There seems to be no basis for this belief other than DEEP BLUE and it's >>>>>>legacy, which is a legacy of "the sky is falling" type of despair. If computers >>>>>>continue to improve tactically, then GM's will learn from them and also improve >>>>>>tactically. Man has always improved in everything he does. Accelerated rates of >>>>>>improvement for chess computers with faster hardware or knowldege doesn't >>>>>>automatically translate into wins against strong GM's. Bring it on. >>>>>> >>>>>> -A.T. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>1970: in 10 years computers will be world champion (note this also >>>>>happened in the 1950's and 60's). Others said "will not". "will too." >>>>>"I'll bet xxx they won't." And 10 years later the same argument still >>>>>rages. >>>>> >>>>>1980: In 10 years computers will be unbeatable. Will not. Will too. >>>>> >>>>>It will probably _always_ be "another ten years". Reminds me of the Tom Hanks >>>>>Movie "The Money Pit." "How long until my house is fixed?" "two more weeks". >>>>>Week after week... >>>>> >>>>>:) >>>> >>>>Well, eventually it will happen, it's only a "matter of time", Bob;-) >>> >>> >>>Yes, but I'm not sure I like the "time". When I walked into my first calculus >>>course as a college freshman in 1966, the professor asked "If you stand 4 feet >>>from the wall, and step 1/2 the way to the wall, and then step 1/2 way again, >>>will you _ever_ reach the wall?" Of course, most said "no" and we dove into >>>limit theory that proves that if you have "enough time" you will eventually get >>>there, as the limit of 1/2^n is zero as n reaches infinity. >> >>The problem with that theory is that 1/2^n has about as much chance of reaching >>zero as n has of reaching infinity. I see neither one as practical but then I'm >>not an educated man. But I'm sure nobody in your calculus class will live long >>enough to reach the wall. >>Jim > >Just to mention what our Terry from CFT has forgotten, but that isn't a wonder >if you consider the injury, Terry got, when he did what his professor told him >to do, a terrible concussion! Terry, poor Terry boy, I even called him kid, had >a serious head injury, and we in CTF still must suffer with every little message >from "him". Let's show some compassion and let me in special apologize for being >so "rude" to "him" in his "view". I promisse that I will applaude his very >personal poems from now on. Isn't there some distant music even in such a short >masterpiece as "loon!" what seems a favorite of Terry's? > >Inconsolable, > >Rolf Tueschen, with a serious hip injury due to doing the splits while testing >the length of the number Pi! :( Omigod! I missed it! It wasn't Terry, it was Bob! Excuse me, Bob, I had the sequence of the moves wrong! Ecxuse me. :) Rolf Tueschen > > >> >>> >>>I hope that is not the target we have with computers and GM players. :)
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