Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 14:27:34 01/28/03
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On January 28, 2003 at 13:38:48, James T. Walker wrote: >On January 28, 2003 at 10:26:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 28, 2003 at 00:59:21, Terry McCracken wrote: >> >>>On January 27, 2003 at 22:57:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On January 27, 2003 at 19:22:19, andrew tanner wrote: >>>> >>>>> There seems to be no basis for this belief other than DEEP BLUE and it's >>>>>legacy, which is a legacy of "the sky is falling" type of despair. If computers >>>>>continue to improve tactically, then GM's will learn from them and also improve >>>>>tactically. Man has always improved in everything he does. Accelerated rates of >>>>>improvement for chess computers with faster hardware or knowldege doesn't >>>>>automatically translate into wins against strong GM's. Bring it on. >>>>> >>>>> -A.T. >>>> >>>> >>>>1970: in 10 years computers will be world champion (note this also >>>>happened in the 1950's and 60's). Others said "will not". "will too." >>>>"I'll bet xxx they won't." And 10 years later the same argument still >>>>rages. >>>> >>>>1980: In 10 years computers will be unbeatable. Will not. Will too. >>>> >>>>It will probably _always_ be "another ten years". Reminds me of the Tom Hanks >>>>Movie "The Money Pit." "How long until my house is fixed?" "two more weeks". >>>>Week after week... >>>> >>>>:) >>> >>>Well, eventually it will happen, it's only a "matter of time", Bob;-) >> >> >>Yes, but I'm not sure I like the "time". When I walked into my first calculus >>course as a college freshman in 1966, the professor asked "If you stand 4 feet >>from the wall, and step 1/2 the way to the wall, and then step 1/2 way again, >>will you _ever_ reach the wall?" Of course, most said "no" and we dove into >>limit theory that proves that if you have "enough time" you will eventually get >>there, as the limit of 1/2^n is zero as n reaches infinity. > >The problem with that theory is that 1/2^n has about as much chance of reaching >zero as n has of reaching infinity. I see neither one as practical but then I'm >not an educated man. But I'm sure nobody in your calculus class will live long >enough to reach the wall. >Jim Just to mention what our Terry from CFT has forgotten, but that isn't a wonder if you consider the injury, Terry got, when he did what his professor told him to do, a terrible concussion! Terry, poor Terry boy, I even called him kid, had a serious head injury, and we in CTF still must suffer with every little message from "him". Let's show some compassion and let me in special apologize for being so "rude" to "him" in his "view". I promisse that I will applaude his very personal poems from now on. Isn't there some distant music even in such a short masterpiece as "loon!" what seems a favorite of Terry's? Inconsolable, Rolf Tueschen, with a serious hip injury due to doing the splits while testing the length of the number Pi! :( > >> >>I hope that is not the target we have with computers and GM players. :)
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