Author: Chris Carson
Date: 08:36:29 02/06/03
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On February 06, 2003 at 10:51:43, Uri Blass wrote: >On February 06, 2003 at 10:45:20, Graham Laight wrote: > >>On February 06, 2003 at 10:27:36, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>I believe that Amir did not say that PCs of 1997 were as strong as DB. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Have you not seen the large number of posts from him INSISTING that DB was >>over-rated, and either implying or stating outright that PCs could have done as >>well, if not better? >> >>n.b. may need to go back a couple of years to find these threads against Robert >>Hyatt. >> >>-g > >We are talking about computers of the beginning of 1997 with hardware of 1997. > >I believe that he talked about it near 2000 when hardware and software were >clearly better. > >Uri As I recall, the argument was that DB in 1996 was 400 or more points stronger than the Commercial programs/hw in 1996. DB never played the PC's, it's predacessor did (and won the majority of games) and many thoght that DB 96/97 should win the WCCC (not a predecessor sp?) to be claimed the best (a DB prototype lost to Fritz in 1995, Chessmachine won in 1992 and DT in 1989). See: http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/wcc-comp.htm By 2000, the discussion was how close to DB strength (anything can happen in a tournament) was the top 5 programs. Some thought PC's were about even, others did not, no one could prove/dis-prove or pursuade the other side since DB was dead. I may have left out major parts of the discussion, but that is my nut-shell version from memory (old and best forgotten posts might bring up some issues best left burried). Seems like a dead issue now. My 2 cents. DB was a great HW solution to thinking machines (Chess in this case). It is dead, long live (and improve) the new kings. I do not think anyone needs to apologize for having an opinion or for stating and defending it in this forum. :) Best Regards, Chris Carson
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