Author: Odd Gunnar Malin
Date: 02:48:42 02/10/03
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On February 10, 2003 at 04:59:04, Maurizio De Leo wrote: >>please see my comments to amir bans post below. >>would someone please post the rule that states that 3 people,and two computers >>are allowed to comensurate the outcome of the k v dj match. >>this would be of much help. >>it would also alleviate much constipation...er,concertation. > >From the official rules > >The operator may accept or reject draw offers (9a) and MAY CONSULT OTHER >PREDESIGNATED TEAM MEMBERS BEFORE DOING SO (9c, 9e). He may resign on behalf of >the machine (9b). He may offer a draw if the machine is showing near-draw >evaluations (9d). > If you did read this before the match, what were you thinking? Ok, they don’t thrust the program when it comes recognise a drawn position so they want a human/chess expert to take this decision (do this 'move') on the behave of the program. Isn't obvious then that this team should only see the chessboard under the game and not any analyses or even the score output from the playing program. I think this missing feature from the program should be brought out so any potential buyers know which behaviour he can expect from the program. When it is known after the game that they not only have looked at the output from the program but also analysed the position before decide to offer/accept a draw, isn’t it then something with the ethical norm of playing a chess game that is broken. >I think this answer your question. More details here > >e. When a draw offer is made by the human player, the machine's operator will >promptly enter the human player's move into the computer. The machine team may >start consultation at this point (off stage), viewing whatever is on the >machine's screen. > Ok, so it was booked that the was allowed to see Junior's output, but this is totally different from start to analyse the game on a second machine before a decision is made. > >So please stop posting tens of message with the same boring claim. > >Maurizio > >P.S. For the book part, it is obvious that Amir talks about before-game. English >is not his native language, but the sentence seems clear enough for avoiding >misunderstandings like yours. I agree here since only GM Alterman could have done this and he wasn't the operator. Odd Gunnar
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