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Subject: Re: The SSDF estimate is too high based on a mere 1.2 GHz !

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 00:13:11 02/16/03

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On February 15, 2003 at 20:59:35, James T. Walker wrote:

>On February 15, 2003 at 20:14:40, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On February 15, 2003 at 19:34:26, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>If you consider that it took Deep Junior a Quad 1.9 GHz or 8 x 1.6 GHz to get a
>>>draw score against Kasparov, then it is reasonable to suspect that Shredder 7
>>>can NOT possibly get a SSDF of 2768 on a mere 1.2 GHz. Either the SSDF adjust
>>>its rating by droping another 50 points or it is time to get an Athlon XP 2400+
>>>to justify its inflated rating system.
>>>
>>>     THE SSDF RATING LIST 2003-02-13   90961 games played by  251 computers
>>>                                           Rating   +     -  Games   Won  Oppo
>>>                                           ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>>   1 Shredder 7.0  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz     2768   33   -31   547   72%  2606
>>>   2 Deep Fritz 7.0  256MB Athlon 1200 MHz   2760   29   -28   654   70%  2612
>>>
>>>
>>>Pichard
>>
>>
>>
>> The SSDF numbers are not ELO numbers.
>>
>> /s
>
>Really?  What are they?  Are they not calculated according to Arpad Elo's
>suggestions?  They certainly are not FIDE ratings but why are they not Elo
>ratings?
>Jim


 Sorry Jim, it was obviously too late at night when I made my post...
 What I meant was that the SSDF numbers from the list can't and shouldn't
 be compared with the FIDE ratings for humans. This has been clarified
 and explained in detail numerous times on this board. Still it happens
 all the time probably because people want it to happen. The SSDF list
 tells us about the difference, in points, between the programs on that
 list - at a very special moment [date of the list].

 So a list starting with     1.Shredder 7.0   1384
                             2.Deep Fritz 7   1380
 would be as valid as the
 one presented from SSDF.


 "Yiihaa, I have just drawn Fritz 7!!"       "Really, how strong is it?"

 "Very strong - about 1370 SSDF points."     "Oh... you're my man."

                                 ;-)

 /s




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