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Subject: Re: To Christophe Theron, RE: Tiger 15

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 10:37:37 04/11/03

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On April 11, 2003 at 13:14:21, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 11, 2003 at 13:02:19, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>On April 11, 2003 at 12:20:31, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>>That's a silly stance to take.  If you look at the progress of computer chess
>>>>over the last 10 years I would wager the *vast* majority of the progress can be
>>>>attributed to speedups in hardware.  Simple test - take a 10-year old chess
>>>>program and run it on today's hardware and see what it's strength is.  (OK so
>>>>maybe I'm overstating things here - this would be an interesting test, has it
>>>>been done?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On equal hardware the programs of 10 years ago get slaughtered.
>>
>>This is not true at the very top IMHO if you make the comparison on 10 year old
>>hardware. (I hope Genius 3 is 10 years old already :) ).
>>
>>On a 486DX50 Genius still is a powerhouse.
>>
>>Peter
>
>Does it have chances against the comercial of today in 120/40
>when you use 486?

I can only guess based on games/testresults I observed at faster timecontrols
(g/30, g/60) that gave me the impression it can. I haven't let them play games
at 120/40. Also there were not enough games.
My impression is based on testgames against Chess Tiger for the Palm.

>
>Do you believe that the main disadvantage of Genius is earning
>less nodes from better hardware so 120/40 on 486 is not eqvivalent
>to 5/40 on faster hardware.
>

I believe that 120/40 on 486 is equivalent to 5/40 on faster hardware but a 486
is a very slow computer and I suspect the computer where I could let it play
5/40 would still be quite slow - it's only factor 24 between the time controls.

On a P90 Tiger 11.8 was stronger than Genius at 120/40 (SSDF) but I don't know
much faster a P90 is. I calculated it once but forgot the result :).

I have a P233 though - if someone can calculate how much faster it is for
chessprograms I could play some matches.

Peter



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