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Subject: Re: A hideous move

Author: Tim Foden

Date: 00:22:27 04/13/03

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On April 13, 2003 at 00:56:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 12, 2003 at 22:01:10, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>Yes but if the pawn is not captured the program in the search the program has no
>>reason to let the rook trade.
>>
>>simple evaluation that give bonus to every passed pawn is enough.
>
>You have _got_ to be a better chess player than that.  You are saying all
>passed pawns are equal.  They most definitely are not.  Pawns on the a,b c
>file for both sides.  My passer is on the h file.  Yours is on the e file.
>You _still_ think that a bonus for a passer is enough?  I have a passer already,
>you can trade rooks to create your passed e pawn.  Smart move?  I don't think
>so...

I realise it's not clear from his answer at this point in the message, but I
beleive Uri is talking _specifically_ about the single position posted.  He
believes that distant passed pawn info is not required to solve _this_ position.

If you had read to the bottom of Uri's reply before replying, I believe that you
would have understood this  :)  See below...

>>I agree that evaluation of distant passed pawn is necessary but the position was
>>not a good example because program with only small bonus for passed pawns and
>>knowledge to evaluate pawns relative to the king can also solve it.
>>
>>It is possible to have a case when evaluation of distant passed pawn is
>>important but I think that a case when both sides have passed pawns or a case
>>that you need to sacrifice a pawn in order to create the distant passed pawn can
>>be better.
>>
>>Uri

Cheers, Tim.



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