Author: Manfred Meiler
Date: 12:17:26 06/24/03
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On June 24, 2003 at 14:06:17, Volker Pittlik wrote: >On June 24, 2003 at 05:53:01, Franz Hagra wrote: > >... >>In einer freien Gesellschaft (in diesem Fall Forum) sollte man auch Kritik >>ertragen können, auch wenn diese manchmal etwas zu hart formuliert oder gar >>unfair sein sollte - aber sie keinen Verstoß gegen Gesetze und die Menschenwürde >>enthält, sollte man sie akzeptieren. >> >... > >The major problem in message boards of any kind (web forums, usenet, >mailinglists) is not that some of them are moderated or that some messages are >deleted or not published. The major problem is a group of maybe a dozen of >selfcentered egomaniacs who disturb and destroy every normal communication. > >All of them are so convinced from their own point of view that they are >absolutely unable to tolerate any other opinion. And those who have different >opinions are treated by them as enemies. That is what they all have in common, >the form how they express it is different. There are: > >- The testers who found a bug in a chess program and post it to a forum. The >problem occurs when they do it (same bug) again and again and again and again >and again and again and again... so often until they get banned. After that they >complain about the violation of human rights. > >- Those who know *exactly* the one and only method how to test a program (the >way they do it). Everyone who test in a different way is declared as to stupid >to get things correctly. > >- Hobby brain scientists, wannabe psychologist and backyard philosophers who get >vulgar if you disagree with them. > >- Pricesses who become "provoked" by you if they don't like your opinion. > >- Conspiracy theorist of all kind who found out that <insert-company-here> is >going to dominate the entire world or that <insert-someone-you-don't-like> is >supporting <insert-crime-here>. > >- Propagandists who found out that (mark your choice) > > [ ] <insert-something here> variant of chess > [ ] <insert-something here> forum, website, ... > [ ] <someone they (don't) like> > > [ ] is the solution of all problems of the entire world > [ ] is a major pain in the ass > >and share their recovery with us in every of their postings. > >- Not to forget those who are simply crazy and threat others with (box) fights >or going so far in their conspiracy bullshit that their forum get closed by >their provider and they still don't recognize that they've spead antisemitic >crap. > >I read the CSS forum daily and what I'm really wondering is: why didn't I ever >notice the "censorship" over there? And what does censorship mean? Basically it >is a violation of the human right to express the disagreement of individuals >with the leaders of the state they're living in. Freedom of speach is a right of >citizens against their state, not against individuals or companies. It does not >mean someone is allowed to be a guest in my house and call me an asshole. It >also does not mean an employee is allowed to call the products of his employer >pieces of shit. Of course everyone is allowed to think that or to say that, but >if they do it in my house or at their company they have to expect legally >consequences. > >Someone has been banned at the CSS Forum. That one wrote *in this forum* that >CSS is supporting receiving of stolen goods. If you where them what would you >do? > >Regards > >Volker Pittlik Hi Volker, danke für diese wirklich nachdenkenswerte und im übrigen brilliant formulierte Analyse ! Thanks for this really think-worth and brilliant formulated analysis ! * sorry for my poor english * Regards, Manfred
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