Author: Fernando Alonso
Date: 04:01:35 07/23/03
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On July 23, 2003 at 06:32:47, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On July 23, 2003 at 06:01:59, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On July 23, 2003 at 05:13:39, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On July 23, 2003 at 04:26:38, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On July 23, 2003 at 02:47:13, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>Below my commented game, a typical one to demonstrate the way humans may not >>>>>play vs a strong computer. Hernandez Guerrero is surely a strong player 2544 >>>>>Elo) but in this game you would not for a moment think that he had the white >>>>>pieces. The human player followed a completely wrong strategy vs a computer >>>>>and was - as usual in such cases - punished by Chess Tiger 15 in a nice >>>>manner. >>>>>Kurt > > Mr Hernandez played a rather good game for having opponent a human but not >for a computer. In your comments you disagree with some moves. These moves where >good for playing with a human but really bad against a computer. He allowed many >pieces on the board, give CT15 much space and the position wasn't close. Clearly >madness. > Anyway i saw the following game of CT15 in this tournament. I can't understand >why it ended with a draw? > >[Event "I Magistral Ciutat de Cullera - A"] >[Site "Cullera"] >[Date "2003.07.16"] >[Round "1.6"] >[White "Chess Tiger 15.0"] >[Black "Herraiz Hidalgo, Herminio"] >[Result "1/2-1/2"] >[ECO "A81"] >[EventDate "2003.07.16"] >[PlyCount "32"] >[Source "lmi"] >[SourceDate "2003.07.22"] > >1. Nf3 f5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 g6 4. b3 Bg7 5. Bb2 O-O 6. O-O d6 7. d4 Qe8 8. c4 Na6 >9. Re1 c6 10. a3 h6 11. Nbd2 g5 12. e4 fxe4 13. Nxe4 Nxe4 14. Rxe4 Bf5 15. Re3 >Qd7 16. Qe2 Rae8 1/2-1/2 Hi, the draw was agreed after some having some problems with the computer. At least that´s what the report from that day said. By the way, yet another win for the Tiger. If tiger was a human player what would be the trainig to play against it? I understand it would be studing his games and finding its strong and weak points. If professionals don´t do it nowadays, it´s not tiger fault but theirs. At least this is my way of thinking. Probably if the programs were given fide rating, professionals would behave in a different way as their rating could chage in those games. But that is all an imginary scenario, the only real thing is Tiger is clearly ahead of three GMs an several IM, so it is playing better than them. It is also true that some amateurs could teach those GMs and IMs how to play against computers because thy know better those weak points, I find that perfectly reasonable too. Here is the last game. [Event "I Magistral Ciutat de Cullera - A"] [Site "Cullera"] [Date "2003.07.22"] [Round "7.3"] [White "Chess Tiger 15.0"] [Black "Cabrera, Alexis"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "B37"] [PlyCount "55"] [EventDate "2003.07.16"] 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 g6 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 d6 7. Nc2 Bg7 8. Be2 Nd7 9. Bd2 b6 10. O-O Bb7 11. f3 O-O 12. Qe1 a6 13. Be3 Re8 14. Qd2 Rc8 15. b3 Bf8 16. Nd4 Qc7 17. Nd5 Qb8 18. Rad1 Bg7 19. Nc2 Ba8 20. Bh6 Bxh6 21. Qxh6 b5 22. Rf2 Na5 23. Qd2 Nc6 24. Qg5 bxc4 25. Bxc4 Qb7 26. Nce3 Nb6 27. Nxb6 Qxb6 28. Nf5 1-0 28 moves to beat a 2491 IM, I wish I could play that way :D. Regards, Fernando.
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