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Subject: Re: Qv3PN

Author: martin fierz

Date: 02:54:56 08/08/03

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On August 08, 2003 at 05:14:27, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 08, 2003 at 04:16:34, martin fierz wrote:
><snipped>
>>uri's argument of 3+3*1 < 9 is far too simplistic, in endgames against a lone
>>queen the question is whether you can construct a fortress like
>
>fortress are the exception and in most practical cases the queen is stronger.

of course

>If you want to add knowledge about exceptions you can do it but without special
>knowledge it is better to tell a program that the queen is stronger because in
>the opposite case it is going to blunder more often.
>
>Uri

of course again. i just added these fortress positions as some other examples
where 9-6 is not a win. the main point (which i probably didn't make clear
enough...) was about the Q-N+3P position:
your comment on that position was:

"A queen equal more than knight and 3 pawns and bonus for passed pawns is not
enough compensation"

which i find a very simplistic evaluation of that position. that's why i
included the other position which is practically unchanged with the pawn on f4
instead of f6, and already black has enough compensation. it's just not at all
obvious that either of the two positions is drawn or lost, certainly it's not a
question of 6<9 - it's a question of how much compensation exactly these passed
pawns give black, which is VERY hard to see!

cheers
  martin



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