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Subject: Re: SSDF rating adjustment

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 23:16:52 08/18/03

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On August 19, 2003 at 02:13:58, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On August 18, 2003 at 16:36:26, Kerry McDermott wrote:
>
>>On August 18, 2003 at 16:08:38, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On August 18, 2003 at 14:56:54, Kerry McDermott wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why did SSDF adjust their ratings down by 100 pts. a few years ago?  How do they
>>>>correlate to USCF ratings now?  Were the ratings inflated to begin with?  Does
>>>>that mean that my old Fidelity Excellence is now rated around 1850 USCF as
>>>>opposed to 1950 as it was before?  (It actually seems lower than 1850 now
>>>>anyway.)
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Kerry
>>>
>>>Check the list, the Excellence is well below 1850 on their lists.
>>>
>>>The Mach III Master is only 1893 on thier lists and it's much stronger than
>>>the excellence.
>>>
>>>If you want an USCF rating, add 200 pts., if it's below 2000 ELO.
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>
>>Terry,
>>
>>The rule of thumb for CCR back in late 80's and early 90's was to add 200 pts.
>>to SSDF to get USCF.  If SSDF has reduced their list down by 100 pts. (as they
>>did in year 2000 sometime) then should we not add 300 pts. to continue to be on
>>par with USCF?  Or is the add 200 pts. still a valid rule of thumb?  If so, why
>>the reduction by 100 rating points by SSDF?  What changed?  Did SSDF decide from
>>experience that the ratings were inflated by about 100 pts. as compared to ELO
>>or Swedish ratings for human chess players?
>>
>>Kerry
>>
>>p.s.  Before year 2000, the SSDF rating for Excellence was 1757 and after year
>>2000 it is SSDF rated 1657.
>
>There has been a lot of tinkering with ratings over the last 15 years.  USCF
>systematicaly lower most of the well established players OTB players (who were
>no longer improving but still had not hit their decline period that comes with
>age) ratings by about about 150 points.
>
>Personally, I think SSDF on the low end computers is about aligned with USCF.
>On the high end (2800) , they are too high.  The problem of course is that they
>play nobody but computers - thus we see  the "Bloodgood" effect.  Bloodgood was
>a master level player who went to prison for murder.  While in prision, playing
>nobody but other prisoners, he became the second highest rated player in the US.
>
>Search google for "Bloodgood chess  prision" to read all about it.

the search works better if you spell "prison" correctly  ;>)



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