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Subject: Re: Larsen - Kavalek 1979

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:14:28 09/07/03

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On September 07, 2003 at 08:05:33, Kim Roper Jensen wrote:

>On September 07, 2003 at 07:53:18, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 07, 2003 at 07:42:00, Kim Roper Jensen wrote:
>>
>>>On September 06, 2003 at 23:59:16, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 06, 2003 at 21:58:14, Kim Roper Jensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Position from the game Larsen - Kavalek Montreal Tournament of Stars
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]1k6/8/B3K1P1/5P2/1pRr2Nn/2b5/8/8 b - -
>>>>>
>>>>>Only move here for black is Nxf5 and get both white pawns and it should be a
>>>>>draw - according to the notes by Whiteley (its taken from the tournament book,
>>>>>by Tal, Chepizhny & Roshal)
>>>>
>>>>Which move or line do you suggest after Nxf5 Kxf5? With a bit more time, Yace
>>>>will not give drawish score anymore. Is it really a draw?
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dieter
>>>>
>>>>PS. I dod not really understand your followup about taking the g pawn with B vs.
>>>>R. Can you suggest a line in that case as well? At the time, where the g7-pawn
>>>>could be captured in the line shown by Yace, it was only possible with the B.
>>>>So, you obviously wanted to suggest a line, that is different earlier. already?
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Dieter
>>>
>>>the last part of with the B against the R thingie must have been a glitch inside
>>>my organic processor :) But i think everytime black gets both white pawns its a
>>>draw... see variations
>>
>>I think that it is not clear and a program should not have a draw score.
>>
>>It may be possible to win by mate attack even without promotion and the side
>>with the piece advantage has practical chances.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I dont think that White can win it, when both white pawns are taken. And most
>lines given by computer is with rooks swapped also this will not enhance the
>winning chances, rather the opposite..

I agree that trading rooks is wrong but you did not criticizing programs for
allowing trade of rooks but for their evaluation.

Uri



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