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Subject: Re: What is the Bottom Line on Handhelds?

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 18:25:41 09/13/03

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On September 13, 2003 at 16:16:13, Alastair Scott wrote:

>On September 13, 2003 at 15:05:12, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 2003 at 13:32:51, Alastair Scott wrote:
>>
>>>On September 13, 2003 at 09:05:27, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>There has been much discussion here about handhelds.
>>>>
>>>>Would someone please summarize "the bottom line" on this topic?  Has this forum
>>>>reached a consensus on which handheld and chess software is best?
>>>>
>>>>What about the latest and greatest Dell handheld?  Palm?  Whatever?
>>>>
>>>>I have been toying with the idea of having something to assist me while reading
>>>>hardcopy chess books away from home.  The idea is to load [before leaving home]
>>>>the games being discussed in the hardcopy book from a large database and then
>>>>experiment with different ideas against the computer while away from home.
>>>>[Playing my own chess games against the computer does not interest me at all.]
>>>>Obviously, at home there is no need for a handheld.
>>>
>>>1. There is no consensus, fortunately, because the two principal platforms are
>>>so different.
>>>
>>>2. For your use a handheld is a bad idea because the screen is much too small
>>>for viewing and choosing from text. Despite all the desperate attempts at
>>>marketing it, email on a mobile phone or handheld is almost unusable for the
>>>same reason.
>>
>>
>>
>>That is YOUR opinion.
>>
>>A handheld is very useable for playing chess and even for reading and writing
>>emails.
>>
>>A mobile phone screen is too small, yes, and this is why I believe the
>>convergence between handhelds and phones should not result in a phone with the
>>features of a handheld, but should result in a handheld equipped with a phone.
>>Because a handheld's screen is big enough.
>>
>>Or this convergence should simply not happen: I have both a phone and a
>>handheld, I can use the phone as the modem for my handheld (by Bluetooth), and
>>this works very well.
>>
>>Anyway, chess on a handheld is a very pleasant experience.
>
>As a registered owner of Chess Tiger for Palm I am not going to argue with that.
>However, something like the database views in Chess Assistant or scid ... no
>way!

I see now that my bulletin in this thread was misleading.  I would use my
regular PC to obtain a collection of games and put it into a named database.  I
would then simply COPY it into the handheld's memory storage element [which
takes the place of a hard disk or floppy].  I would never attempt to perform
database management on a handheld.

Consider Kasparov's new book, "Gary Kasparov on My Great Predecessors Part I."
This book is a collection of annotated games.  Almost all of those games are in
Chessbase's Megabase 2003.  In preparation for the study of this book, I copied
these games into a small database just for this hardcopy book.  Then, when I
read the book, I simply call up the game and follow it on the monitor as I read
the book.  This allows me to evaluate my own ideas using a chess engine.  Doing
this evaluation of my own ideas helps me to understand the inner workings of
those games.  Typically, I say to myself:  "Why didn't White play XX-XX?"  I
play it on the computer and the engine quickly lets me know whether or not my
idea is any good, and if not why not.

That is what I would propose to do on the handheld.  I would not do any database
management on the handheld.  Who would?

Bob D.

>
>From the 3G phones I've seen it looks as though things are going in the opposite
>direction from your suggestion (and my preference); they are definitely "phones
>with handheld features". I read somewhere that Motorola's first (relatively
>large) 3G phone was very much a first cut and it wanted to make subsequent ones
>smaller :(
>
>Alastair



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