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Subject: Re: a question to Tord about detecting threats in null move

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:49:15 10/05/03

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On October 05, 2003 at 14:51:28, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On October 05, 2003 at 03:28:30, Ed Schröder wrote:
>The quote is not in accordance with your claim. Also it was selective quoted at
>the time. We speak about a story of me on computerchess and about what my engine
>was doing which was around 100KB big.
>But you are very well again in distracting this fact from the Truth that
>Christophe said that you should never look to other programs, and that when this
>was not ironic meant, that this means trivially that he misses about half of the
>The statement also is opposite to your claim that you should look after your
>brother and especially competitors.
>Personally i try for fun many chessprograms and keep track which engines are
>there in this world. So i very well know about movei and i very well know about
>messchess too.

You also claimed that messchess is rated higher than movei.

I asked about rating list and you had no reply.
The question is messchess is better than movei is a different question than
the question if it is rated higher than movei.

I cannot be sure that messchess is even not better than Junior and Shredder
without knowing it and without seeing games of it but even if it is better than
them you did not gave a rating list to support your claims.

>Trivially this is also why i didn't miss the boat to get a parallel engine and
>why my thing isn't just searching tactical deeper and why DIEP is a
>So that both renders of course Tiger and Rebel completely outdated. Good luck in
>a 90 0 tournament. I don't doubt Sjeng, Rebel or Tiger will win it.
>I personally find the world champs more important (for those who just have
>grammar school - this statement just says that i join the world champs it does
>*not* say that i do not join the dutch champs), that's why i show up seriously
>prepared there. Both hardware and software.
>Why aren't you joining such events anymore?

You do not join other tournament like WBEC(when Deep Sjeng won the last
tournament) or ssdf.

Are you afraid not to win the ssdf?

You can claim that you do not find it as important and it is your right but you
need to understand that other people do not find the world championship as

If you think about selling your program then customers are going to be more
interested in results of it in the ssdf list and not in results of it in
the world championship when they cannot use the same hardware.

As GCP explained the world championship is not important and Fritz is the
program that is going to play against kasparov for a lot of money inspite of not
winning world championships after 1995 and even not leading the ssdf today.

I doubt if you are going to earn something from winning the world championship.
I did not read about a promise for a match against top player for a lot of money
for the world champion.


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