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Subject: Re: have you ever seen such a change in GM score

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:14:36 10/15/03

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On October 15, 2003 at 16:27:26, stuart taylor wrote:

>On October 15, 2003 at 05:26:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 15, 2003 at 04:16:59, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On October 15, 2003 at 03:39:38, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 14, 2003 at 23:32:08, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>28.  white is up  +2.41
>>>>>       black is up  +5.81
>>>>>29.  white   mate in 9
>>>>>       black is up  +8.39
>>>>>30.  white is up  +2.62
>>>>>       black is up  +8.89
>>>>>31.   white is up 6.55
>>>>>        black resigns
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>next move from this position is 28.Kg2
>>>>> [D] 1r4k1/R4pp1/8/5Qp1/p7/1q1PP1P1/5P1P/1rR3K1 w - -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I do not believe that GM's played that move
>>>>I guess that there was simply a mistake in writing the game.
>>>>
>>>>It is not a bad idea to use common sense before posting.
>>>>
>>>>Even weak player will not play 28.Kg2 that is a simple losing of a rook so it
>>>>does not make sense to believe that GM's played it.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>I believe that ANY human can not think for a momment, and can imagine that e.g.
>>>the rook is protected e.g. by the queen (because of optical illusion), or simply
>>>was thinking about something else and forgot about the rook being en prise.
>>>I'm not saying that it should be a common thing!
>>
>>If it was one blunder maybe but the sides continued to blunder so I am
>>practically sure that the moves were not played and it is more logical to guess
>>that the sides were in time trouble and forgot to write the moves or that the
>>people who copied the moves for got to copy.
>>
>>I play against significantly weaker players and I do not remember optical
>>illusion like that.
>>
>>The probability for it to happen to both players is too small to have reasonable
>>doubt about it so I am sure that the moves that were posted were not played in
>>the game.
>>
>>I remember only one case some years ago when the opponent left the queen in the
>>wrong square so I captured his queen(he tried to correct it and said that he did
>>not mean to put it on that square and I believe him but the rules say that if
>>you left the queen on e2 even for only 1/4 second it is your problem even in
>>case that you meant to put it at d2).
>>
>>That tournament was active chess(30 minutes per game) and I know that a player
>>with rating near 2000 does not leave his queen at distance of one from my rook
>>on purpose.
>>Unfortunately I have not enough time to win that game and that game was drawn
>>but without the queen I could lose the game because of not having enough time.
>>
>>Uri
>
>True, It's unlikely that both have optical illusions at the same time, unless
>they are both affected by the same wanton spirit! (seriously, there CAN be such
>causes imo. But people here think it is an insult to their intelligence to
>believe such things, so that's not a discussion for now).
>Is it really true that according to the rules, you can take your finger off the
>moved piece for up to 1/4 of a second, and then take back?
>S.Taylor

No

The rules says that when you left the piece the move cannot be changed.

Uri



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