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Subject: Re: Two Old Deep Thought games

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 09:41:08 11/09/98

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On November 09, 1998 at 08:43:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 08, 1998 at 21:40:03, Howard Exner wrote:
>
>>Even in 1988-89 Deep Thought had lots of hardware advantage over its micro
>>challengers. Here are two games that DT lost. I wonder how that machine then
>>would do now?
>>
>>Who were the programmers of Mephisto and Plymate?
>>The plymate game looks a bit odd to be a 40/2 encounter. Does anyone have info
>>on the time control for that game?
>>
>
>
>Game 2 never happened.  Don't know where it came from, or who posted it where
>it was found, but that game was never played, at least at any ACM or WCCC
>event.

I downloaded it from the the DeepThought collection at that big games site
from the University of Pittsburgh.

 The Mephisto game was the *only* game at an ACM or WCCC event that was
>lost by DT to a micro-based program.  Deep Blue "prototype" also lost a game
>to Fritz in Hong Kong.
>
>But remember that during the period 1989-1994, when they played, they played
>at least 5 games every year an sometimes 10 (when ACM and WCCC were both held
>in the same year.)  They lost two out of (lower bound) 50 games.  You tell
>me what the Elo system would say there?  nearly +500 rating points?
>
>I'll try to figure out who plymate's opponent was as I have most game
>bulletins from these events. But it certainly wasn't DT...

It could have been some typo error.

Something I would be interested in would be a book by Hsu and company
on the entire Deep Thought/Blue project. Not just the technical stuff
but any and all information on its conception, struggles, their comments
on its games,anecdotes ... the works.



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