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Subject: Re: How about a North American CC Tournament?

Author: Steven Edwards

Date: 19:03:28 11/03/03

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On November 03, 2003 at 18:22:29, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On November 03, 2003 at 14:19:02, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>On November 03, 2003 at 00:01:33, Steven Edwards wrote:
>>
>>>It seems that it's been a long time since there was a North American CC
>>>tournament and meeting.
>>>
>>>Is there interest in organizing one for 2004?
>>
>>I would be interested in such an event. Maybe you should send some emails around
>>to some North Americans to get a better idea of the interest. Probably not
>>everyone who might be interested would read your message. If you could get some
>>prominent North Americans behind it (Bob and Bruce would probably be a good
>>start) that might help the cause.
>>
>>Also, Bob has been in favor of doing things online in the past. That is another
>>option. North America is a large area, so no matter where you hold the event,
>>some people will have to travel a long way. Maybe alternating the type of event
>>on a 2 or 3 year cycle would work (in-person event once every 2 or 3 years,
>>online event the other years). Or maybe holding an online event for the first
>>couple of years to draw up enough recognition to hold an in-person event in
>>future years. Just some thoughts.

Perhaps an annual on line event in addition to a bi-annual in the flesh event
would be a good idea.

>I think Bruce liked the idea also.
>
>There are several chess programmers in the Redmond, WA area including Bruce M.,
>Scott G. and Tom K.

In Alabama, there's Bob and also if he's still there, David Kittinger.  John
Stanback was in Colorado the last I heard.  In the New England area, there's
Robert McLaughlin (sp?) with his Evaluator program (still active?), whatever
happens to be under development at MIT, and myself.  Also, don't forget the
possibility of entrants from UofA in Edmonton.

>I think it would be fun to organize continental matches.

Doing it at a reasonable cost is the tricky part.

>Whatever gets done, it is abundantly clear that the WMCCC "always in Europe"
>format results in a European champion instead of a world champion, since almost
>all of the engines that enter are European engines.

Yes; for some set of reasons, the United States once dominated CC but now the
country seems somewhat under-represented.

>It would be nice to see *something* happen that allows contests where
>programmers can meet one another without spending a few thousand for the trip.

It would be nice to have a sponsoring organization.  It doesn't look like the
ACM is much interested in CC anymore.  And the United States Chess Federation
may be bankrupt in a few months, so there's no hope there.



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