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Subject: Re: About CC-events in the US (Ignore previous post)

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 17:08:23 11/20/03

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On November 20, 2003 at 18:44:18, martin fierz wrote:

>so? in what way does that make my statement wrong? .
>
>of course, if you give one of those american programs a huge hardware advantage,
>then it has it's chance - that is pretty clear!

So how is your statement correct then? WCCC _is_ open hardware you know. In an
open hardware event you must take into consideration the hardware that is being
used. By your approach, Deep Blue wouldn't be a contender because you limit your
view to software in an open hardware event, which makes no sense.


>if i ran my rather weak program on a box which is 1000x faster than yours you
>would lose. does this make me proud? does this make my program better than
>yours?? go figure...

The difference is, Bob _could_ get a very powerful machine. If you ran your
program on hardware 1000x faster than Bob's, and your program won every game,
then yes, it would be better than Bob's at the WCCC.


>i talked about *programs*. not about the combination of hardware+software. i
>don't know why you do it, but you seem to deliberately misunderstand any
>sentence i write ;-)

No one is misunderstanding what you are writing. Maybe you aren't saying what
you are meaning to say, but what you're saying isn't correct. You say that the
US doesn't have any programs that could contend for the WCCC title, which is
clearly false as Bob has shown.

For some reason you want to seperate software and hardware, and that isn't the
reality of the WCCC, which is what we are discussing here.

This is going to degenerate quickly if you don't make it clear what you mean.
Don't say, "no US program could compete for the WCCC title," when you mean to
say, "no US program using <insert hardware here> could compete for the WCCC
title." You don't say what you mean, then you say people misinterpret what you
said. How are we supposed to know what you meant to say? We can't read your
mind.

Even if you want to say that "no US program can compete in the WCCC on certain
hardware", then you are free to say it, but it's really irrelevant, since WCCC
is open hardware.



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