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Subject: Re: Could Junior, Fritz, Shredder, HIARCS & Tiger be Clones of Crafty? : )

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:19:48 11/28/03

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On November 28, 2003 at 15:13:58, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On November 28, 2003 at 15:02:55, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 28, 2003 at 14:47:21, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>After all, who is to offer PROOF that it isn't so?  For the Junior, Fritz,
>>>Shredder, HIARCS & Tiger programmers to offer proof, they would have to reveal
>>>their source code, which they surely will not do.
>>>
>>>Hyatt has often said that his code is not optimized.  Maybe the front-runner
>>>commercial programs are just improved versions of Crafty!  If Crafty can be made
>>>100 points better by an attorney, what could talented chess programmers
>>>accomplish?
>>>
>>>: )
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>
>>Maybe you talk nonsense.
>>The evaluation of commercial programs is different than Crafty and there is
>>knowledge of Crafty that at least part of the commercial programs have not.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Obviously, my bulletin was pure intended humor.  : )
>
>If you don't believe it, just look at the smileys!  : )
>
>But, to be serious [for just a minute], I must say I'm confused by your
>"evaluation of commercial programs" and unclear as to why you believe that at
>least part of the commercial programs do not have "knowledge of Crafty."
>
>[I don't mean to ridicule your English.  I just don't understand. Perhaps you
>could elaborate?]
>
>Other than the fact that the programs play better than Crafty, what evidence is
>there?  A greatly improved Crafty would certainly play better than the version
>of the Crafty I have, version 19.03.
>
>Bob D.

I mean to say that there are positions when they play worse than Crafty and I
remember examples when Crafty had more knowledge than commercial programs about
pawn majorities in the endgame.

Uri

Uri



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