Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:26:12 12/10/03
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On December 10, 2003 at 10:40:09, Bob Durrett wrote: >On December 10, 2003 at 10:03:56, Robert Hyatt wrote: > ><snip> > >>The ICGA has ignored the problem. Including the problem of a shared book or >>book author. We have to live within the rules as stated, however, so I don't >>see a problem with _everybody_ using the best Kure book, with the Fritz GUI, >>until the rules are fixed to address the issue correctly. > >It seems that engines are handicapped by using a standard book. A recent thread >discussed the possibility of starting with a standard book and then optimizing >the book for the specific engine by playing oodles of chess games with "opening >learning" enabled. The idea was that the "educated" book would be better for >that specific engine. This is not uncommon. It is a risk you take with using a globally-available book. But it might be that the globally-available book is so much better, the risk is worth it. > >Assuming that the above is correct, then it would seem that programmers would >prefer to NOT use a standard book but instead to use one optimized for their own >engine as above. What is happening is that a couple of book authors are doing books for different commercial engines. And the real problem is that these book authors are _really_ good. Is it fair for a program to have to play against a _really_ strong book 3 times in a tournament (book from the same author) because he chooses to share it among three programs that are sold together? If so then why can't I enter 3 copies of Crafty to improve my chances? The book often provides 20 moves of a game. Some games don't even last 40 moves before they are over. The book is over 1/2 of the total game. That is a significant contribution. > >In view of this, as a tournament organizer or tournament director I would allow >a programmer to use a standard or publicly available opening book but would be >very surprised if the programmer mistakenly chose to do so. We are not talking about publicly available books, for the reason you mention. We are talking about custom-written tournament books. Each written by a single very good book author, but used by multiple computer chess programs in the same event. > >Bob D.
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