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Subject: Re: BFF Rating List: 2 Thoughts

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 13:27:06 12/29/03

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On December 29, 2003 at 16:18:20, Mike Hood wrote:

>Take a look at the end-of-year Best-for-Fritz rating list, for engines running
>in the Fritz GUI, at
>http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/bff-liste.htm
>
>I have two "doubts" about the list:
>
>1) At the bottom of the list is the Chessbase native engine Turing, with a
>rating of 1572. This seems horribly inflated to me. My own "official" rating,
>based on my league games, is 1430. I played a series of games against Turing and
>won 8-0, no draws. My personal estimate for Turing is between 1000 and 1200. If
>you can't trust the Elo values at the bottom of the list, how can you trust the
>values at the top of the list? Maybe the arbitrary start value of 2600 was too
>high. If a start value of 2400, or even 2200, had been used, a more meaningful
>rating list would have been achieved.
>
>2) In 21st place there is a native Chessbase engine called List 5.12. This is
>neither a commercial engine, nor a free engine, so is it a secret engine that
>somebody has slipped to CSS "under the hand"? Is it the engine that was
>disqualified at the recent computer chess tournament in Graz? Based on the
>replies to my previous question in this forum, nobody knows where it's come
>from, so it doesn't deserve to be included in the rating list.

List 5.04 is on Chessbase's website.

And yes, that was the engine that got disqualified.



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