Author: Lawrence S. Tamarkin
Date: 08:31:43 11/27/98
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Well no, I was responding to the first post, which asked; 'Why do we do it'. Since I have noticed that I'm completely and totally addicted to these chess programs, and chess, and chess books, and regardless of how much (or little), money I have, I always want & buy more of them, I thought I'd share that I was self-aware of the, 'problem'. Knowing you have a problem, doesn't necessarilly mean that you want it to go away. I know I don't! But it is true, that with each indroduction of new programs in the same family, IE, Fritz5, Junior5, and now Fritz 5.32, the same company is getting me to send it in on ensentially the same product again & again & again! (and each indruction of these improved products seems to happen pretty quickly too...) Yes, I know its knowbodies fault but my own, but want to be a stronger, more knowledgible chess player; I would do anything (perhaps even sell my soul to the devil), to achieve this, and when their is a new tutorial, database, or playing program, or excellent chess book, I 'feel' I must get it if I can. The most ironic thing about it is I don't even really care much about what the product does; an ad for it comes out, proclaiming its wonderful & unique features, everybody here and on, rec.games.chess.computer starts talking about it, and like Homer Simpson, spotting a giant sprinkled chocolate donut, I have have to have it - Doh! And then of course, instead of using it/them very much, I spend most of my free time here at this Computer Chess Club, 'complaining', about how I'm waisting precious money on these 'stupid' chess programs, rather than saving it for pratical stuff, like the Rent & a new wardrobe. mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict! On November 27, 1998 at 04:44:23, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >Mr. Oudheusden, > >I assume that you are responding to all the posts on this site that brag about >beating a particular program or playing it to a draw and then claiming that it >is a weak program. This is just human nature. I do agree with you that just >playing on a board without looking at play continuation lines will make winning >less likely. It is fun however to let the program select a move that causes it >to beat itself. It is also informative to play a line and then return to the >beginning and try another line. > >I myself can usually beat expert level chess players but get whipped by >candidate masters and above. I am unrated and refuse to get rated because of >the large number of neurotic individuals in chess clubs. I prefer to play chess >programs that don't get pissed when they lose. Computer chess is fascinating >because it offers one the opportunity to play an opponent that while not >self-aware is an extension of human play and is quite adept at the game. > >As this programming of chess matures we will get to the point where a program >will use optimized sub-programs in specific positions and play truly beautiful >chess. I really like to be beaten soundly by a creative adversary. Eventually, >even the most gifted humans will not be able to beat the monsters that are >coming on the face of the chess world. We or our children will be in awe of the >amazing play of these coming robots. We all want a program that plays beautiful >chess.
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