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Subject: Re: How strong is Chessmaster 6000?

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 16:44:55 11/29/98

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On November 29, 1998 at 10:15:53, Amir Ban wrote:

>On November 29, 1998 at 08:46:00, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>
>>
>>On November 29, 1998 at 07:12:12, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>On November 29, 1998 at 06:50:41, Georg Langrath wrote:
>>>
>>>>Sometimes I feel that all talk about strength is a joke. What is the difference
>>>>between 2450 and 2500 if you are not a very strong player? Nevertheless also I
>>>>am interested in strengthcompare. I think that we are kind of sick.
>>>>
>>>>Now my question. Has anybody played Chessmaster 5500 against Chessmaster 6000.
>>>>In that way it would be possible to find if 6000 has got  a stronger engine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Georg
>>>
>>>
>>>Ozso, a veteran computer handle on ICC runs CM5500 and says this in its notes:
>>>
>>>"2: CM6k has stronger books than 55, but a 10% weaker engine"
>>>
>>>Amir
>>
>>Even though I respect you highly Amir and your program. I think to myself you
>>are spreading rumours given by some old chess player giving his opinion which I
>>think is way off, and I believe you know this too.
>>
>>I think he is wrong. Mindscape said their engine is stronger, not just the book
>>making it stronger.
>>
>>I was going to say that you being a rival programmer, saying that CM5500 is
>>stronger than the new CM6000, which is also competing against your program.
>>might make people think to forget about getting CM6000, when it is weaker than
>>it previous version and maybe buy your program instead.
>>
>>I think especially if someone has something to gain from making comments on how
>>strong a program is, especially if it has a negative angle, they should back it
>>up with facts. and not just write someones else's opinions.
>>
>>Maybe I am off the mark Amir, but that is how I feel about it. But I will I will
>>leave your responsibilities and comments up to you.
>>
>>I mean no offence on what you write Amir, but I got the impression that you
>>spreading rumours and not facts.
>>
>>I apolagise if this sounds like I am having ago at you. I do not want to, but
>>just wanted to get my view across. I also suppose I gain alot from one line you
>>write :)
>>
>>Thanks
>
>
>I was just trying to be helpful, and quoted something I recently saw. That was
>the only opinion on cm5500/cm6000 strength comparison I've ever seen, so you got
>the complete and uncensored report.
>
>Take the quote on the authority of the one who said it. I only quoted what
>someone else says, which I (or anyone else) can say without myself having any
>opinion on this matter. It's not a "rumour". Why call it so, when I've given you
>source and exact quote ? Ask him if you wish.
>
>I don't have a real first-hand opinion on this myself. I don't own either
>program (I do have cm4000 though. I won't make the mistake of praising it. That
>would really get me some angry posts :)). It's interesting in a general sense,
>but it's not of great importance to me. I understand from what you write that
>I'm supposed to have a business interest in making this newsgroup believe one
>side of this, but I haven't given this thought until now, and I don't really see
>what this interest might be.
>
>Amir

No worries, it was only my thought, no need to say anymore on this matter.



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