Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 08:48:05 02/13/04
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On February 13, 2004 at 11:21:51, Alberto Rezza wrote: >>How many players in the world are at least good level amateurs in go? > >It depends. If "good level amateur" is something like 1-dan (on the european >rating) then there must be at least one million players in the world who are >this strong or stronger. > >However, go and chess are too different, and it's very difficult to compare >their rankings. I think some people have tried to get equivalent ramkings by >comparing the probabilities of winning for a given rank difference in the two >games, but the results are not very meaningful: it turns out that there are, >from beginner to world champion, many more "steps" or levels to progress in go >than in chess; so if you fix an equivalence like, for instance, 100 Elo points >for every go stone, you get a much lower probability to win with a "one level" >advantage in go than in chess. > >Another approach is to compare population sizes: there are many more chess >players than go players - the go players are only about 30 million, mostly in >China, Korea and Japan. From a much bigger pool you should also get better top >players, so the chess GM's should really be compared to the very top go masters, >the 9-dan professionals. This might put a 1-dan pro at about 2350 Elo, and a >1-dan amateur near 1700 Elo. > >The problem is that this is not consistent with the "feeling" reported by people >who are strong in both games: for example, a friend of mine who was about 2000 >Elo in chess, and also a 1-kyu (euro) amateur go player, told me he believed he >was definitely stronger in go than in chess. > >Personally, I think 2000 Elo in chess would be slightly better than 1-kyu in go, >but then again I am not a chess player... (beginner at chess, 1-dan in go). > >Alberto Awhile back I started using this rule of thumb: take your AMATEUR (does not work for pro) kyu ranking in Go, multiply by 33 1/3, and subtract that from 1800 (perhaps it should be 1900?), and you'll get an approxmiate equivalent of a USCF rating. It's far from perfect, but in general it works better for me than not having any approxmiate formula to use.
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