Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:13:06 02/22/04
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On February 22, 2004 at 09:47:06, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On February 22, 2004 at 08:46:27, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 22, 2004 at 08:27:55, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>I am not talking about situation when we prove theretical result but about >>>situation when all comp-comp games at 120/40 time control between top programs >>>are drawn. > >With this you assume that Chess is an always-draw game. I would not be so sure >about that. In fact i would not dare to talk about it. > >>>My guess is that we need more than 20 years but less than 50 years to achieve >>>that target. >>> >>>What is your opinion? > > If there would not be a big jump in the evolution of the improvement of chess >engines, by developing new methods that engines play chess or by hardware >improvement jumps, then i think that after ~24 years chess-engines will be able >to play perfect for human standards and 95% of the results between them will be >1-0 or 1/2-1/2 or 0-1, so we will be able to conclude what Chess is a >white/black/draw game. All these WITH opening books. To be able to play >without opening books in this way i would say 45 years. > >> >>I can add that I also mean that by practically solving chess I mean that it will >>be impossible practically for humans to win against chess programs even when >>they get computers to help them. > >This seems to contradict your first statement, because if computers become so >strong to win against top humans, then if humans will use computers to help >them and because computers will be much stronger from them, all the moves will >be computer's suggestions, so we will actually have a comp-comp game. So the >human with the help of a computer could win against computers. No My guess is that in this way you can get only a draw. Uri
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