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Subject: Re: Is SPEC a bad test organisation according to Hyatt?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 20:09:20 03/01/04

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On March 01, 2004 at 16:35:06, Matthew Hull wrote:

>On March 01, 2004 at 16:27:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2004 at 16:20:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On March 01, 2004 at 15:22:10, Brian Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:24:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:20:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 13:59:25, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 13:49:38, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 12:05:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On February 29, 2004 at 23:38:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You qualify the testresults as done for SPEC as INVALID and INCORRECT?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>YES or NO?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>[bla bla removed]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Had you stopped to drink vodka every morning?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Please answer only YES or NO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>[bla bla removed]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So, my previous post pointed that there are questions for which you cannot
>>>>>>>answer "YES or NO".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And here is *official* SPEC data for 1.3GHz K7 and 1.5GHz Itanium2:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q4/cpu2000-20011008-01018.html
>>>>>>>http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2004q1/cpu2000-20040126-02775.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Eugene
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please do not confuse discussions with Vincent by supplying real data.  Things
>>>>>>stay on a more equal footing if you just make up stuff and post it here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>><sarcasm off>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>For those that didn't look at the data, the 1.5ghz K7 compared to the 1.5ghz
>>>>>itanium shows a 50% faster speed on the Itanium.  IE the K7 took 127 seconds to
>>>>>run the test, the Itanium took 80.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, but isn't the K7 a 32 bit CPU, whereas the Itanium2 is 64 bits?
>>>>If so, then clock for clock is not very indicative, especially
>>>>quoting a 2 1/2 year old benchmark.
>>>
>>>Vincent quoted K7 vs Itanium.  Eugene responded with data for those two
>>>processors.  I didn't pick them either.
>>>
>>
>>Quote on:
>>
>>The speedwin from crafty when going from K7 to Itanium2, was real real small.
>>
>>Quote off
>>
>>That was What Eugene responded to.
>>
>>"real real small" -> 50% faster on Itanium 2.
>>
>>"real real small" indeed.
>>
>>:)
>
>
>It is useful to remember that Vincent wields with his own mind the most awesome
>power on earth, a power capable of defeating the combined strength of even 512
>processors.

Don't worry against an old fraud like Hyatt i'll take any 1 to 10 hardware
challenges as long as i can use decent hardware. All i need is a dual opteron.

Let Hyatt show up with any platform of his choice at world champs i'd say.

He can only look good at paper. Committing fraud with numbers.

I guess that's how he got professor too, using those frauded numbers.

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>How about Opteron vs Itanium?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why 1.5ghz K7?  Because Vincent was talking about "clock for clock" and Eugene
>>>>>chose to supply real data rather than barking up a hollow tree...



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