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Subject: Re: SEE and FH-%

Author: Andreas Guettinger

Date: 11:06:58 03/30/04

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On March 30, 2004 at 13:55:47, Andreas Guettinger wrote:

>On March 30, 2004 at 13:16:00, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 30, 2004 at 12:29:42, Renze Steenhuisen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>today I wanted to implement SEE, and use it in the Qsearch. My SEE isn't using
>>>X-ray (discovered attacks) at the moment, but I already expected to see a boost
>>>in FH-%. Unfortunately I didn't see it yet...
>>>
>>>Using it in the main-search did give an advantage of some 5%
>>>
>>>1> Is SEE not that important in Qsearch?
>>>
>>>2> With MVV/LVA I had about 15-20% Quiscence nodes, with SEE I have 25-30%
>>>   Qnodes!?
>>>
>>>Could some one give an overview of which move-ordering technique is responsible
>>>for how much FH-%?!
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Renze
>>
>>If you use SEE everywhere for move ordering, it will reduce the total tree size
>>by about 10% over MVV/LVA.  But if you use SEE to eliminate hopeless captures in
>>the tree search, you will reduce the tree size by more than 50%, which is very
>>significant.  MVV/LVA can't be used to do this since it is a poor estimator for
>>expected gain or loss...
>
>
>Do you mean by eliminate hopless captures in the tree search:
>
>- give them the smallest priority in move ordering?
>
>or
>
>-prune them in the search tree?
>
>regards
>Andy

Well, obviously the second dosen't work.

Andy
(Confused by the word 'eliminate')



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