Author: Sam Lloyd
Date: 12:43:52 04/01/04
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John he's full of it. A while back I submitted an application form, to CCO to see the response I'd get. Heck, I even considered infiltrating their organization, just to see how they manage every possible way to cheat at online chess. I didn't bother to continue the final steps to join. It just sickened me too much. I've been hit with online cheating too many times to count, as many other chess players have. Here are the letters from the CCO. From: "Cheaters Rep" <president@compcheaters.cjb.net> | This is spam | Add to Address Book Thank you for your interest in the Computer Cheating Organization! In order for you to become a registered CCO member, our representative needs to contact you at the email address you specified when registering. Please be patient as our representative will contact you very shortly. You are also asked to be very honest in your reply to our representative. As a registered CCO member, you will: - have access to manuals and technical articles which contain state-of-the-art cheating techniques, tips and tricks; - have access to our cheating forum, where you will be able to discuss all cheating issues with our other members; - get all future releases of computer cheating software for free; - have your own @compcheaters.cjb.net email address and much, much, more! We are looking forward to seeing you as a registered member! Best regards, the Computer Cheating Organization president, CheatersRep ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: info@compcheaters.cjb.net | This is spam | Add to Address Book Subject: Your registration at compcheaters.netfirms.com Hello, We have received your application for a registered Computer Cheating Organization member. We wish to emphasize now that you can join us either as a professional computer cheater, or as an honorary member, or as a technical staff member. If you wish to register as a professional computer cheater, please reply to this email by sending us your cheating resume. We are looking forward to seeing new members joining our club, but we cannot let those who have no respect for what they are doing to join. If you are cheating just for fun, perhaps you've heard it's cool to cheat, but you don't want to respect the rights of your fellow cheaters to cheat, nor do you give any thought or respect to the game of cheating, then this isn't the right place for you. If you don't know how to cheat, don't expect us to teach you the basics for free. If you, however, have cheated for a while, grasped the concept of cheating, and are looking for ways to improve, socialize and learn something new, then you're very welcome. In your reply, you are kindly asked to tell us your handle on one of the major chess servers, or, if you do not wish to do so, at least to provide us with some evidence that you are actually cheating. If you wish to register as an honorary member, we'd ask you to write us in your reply under which name you have been known to our organization, or what you have done for our organization, and therefore deserved such an honor to be our member. Note that, in order to register as an honorary member, you must have already established your credentials as a friend of our organization. If you wish to register as a technical staff member, be notified that we are in the need for either of the following: a C++ programmer, a Java programmer, or a Web developer. If you qualify as one of those, please reply and tell us that you're ready to volunteer for our organization. Best regards, CheatersRep, president of the CCO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's a Google link about J. Kazindki http://www.google.ca/search?q=J.+Kazinski+&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&meta= +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ To Honest Chess! Lloyd On April 01, 2004 at 15:09:03, John Merlino wrote: >On April 01, 2004 at 14:58:18, J. Kazinski wrote: > >>>The most amusing part of your post, as far as I can tell, is that the subject >>>has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the content of the post itself. Clearly, >> >>Yes it has check http://www.correspondencechess.com/campbell/apctcol/c0309.htm > >And where, exactly, was the above URL mentioned anywhere in your original post? >Or even anything about cheating at all (let alone in your signature)? > >>The Rules Define the Ethics >>Many will agree with the viewpoint that rules that cannot be effectively >>enforced should be avoided. Some even say that such rules contribute to >>undermining respect for the rules. The feeling is that the mark of good rules is >>effective enforcement. This is a powerful argument. However, there is another >>viewpoint I would like to express, namely that the rules aren't just a set of >>laws to enforce, but rather the rules of the game define the game. >> >>For instance, is it ethical to receive advice from another player? This cannot >>be answered in a vacuum. Recently there have been several on-line contests >>between experts and teams of consultants, such as Dave Taylor (10th USA >>Champion) vs. a team made up of visitors to the TCCMB message board and IM John >>Knudsen vs. Rest of World. Not only was it correct for the team to consult one >>another, but it was central to the contest. Some players have expressed great >>pleasure in participating in such a consultation match. How about computer use? >>There have been a series of matches played using "Advanced Chess", a system >>allowing a player full access to the chess engine of his choice. No one would >>argue that these players were being unethical … it was just part of the contest. >>So, what makes the use of a computer engine or consultation unethical in other >>circumstances? It is the rules, of course. > >Now here I agree with you. If the rules allow it, it is not cheating. This is >obvious. But I still don't see how any of this relates to the subject line of >this thread. Nor will you be able to explain it with another link to your site. > >jm
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