Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 00:07:51 04/12/04
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On April 12, 2004 at 00:47:55, Dan Ellwein wrote:
>On April 12, 2004 at 00:09:48, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 11, 2004 at 13:52:59, Tom Likens wrote:
>>
>>>On April 10, 2004 at 21:53:17, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 10, 2004 at 15:55:17, Tom Likens wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure where I come down on the bitboards vs. non-bitboard
>>>>>architectures. My engine is a bitboard engine, but that doesn't
>>>>>necessarily mean that the next one will be bitboard based.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't believe though, that because no bitboarder has topped the
>>>>>SSDF list that this really constitutes any kind of proof. My strong
>>>>>suspicion is that if all the top commercial programmers converted
>>>>>over to bitboards tomorrow (yourself included) that *eventually*
>>>>>their new engines would again rise to the top of the SSDF. I'm
>>>>>beginning to suspect that creating a strong (i.e. world-class) engine
>>>>>involves a helluva lot more than just the basic data representation,
>>>>>but instead involves...
>>>>>
>>>>>1. 24/7 dedication
>>>>>2. A *real* way to measure progress
>>>>>3. A selective search strategy that works 99.99999% of the time
>>>>>4. Attention to about 2^64 minor details
>>>>>5. A failed marriage (okay, maybe this is extreme but you see the point)
>>>>>
>>>>>regards,
>>>>>--tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Number 5 (or something close) was the reason why Tiger has made such a progress
>>>>between 1997 and 1999. :)
>>>>
>>>>Number 2, seriously, is worth spending several months on it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>This has been my main focus over the past few weeks. It's become readily
>>>apparent to me that the improvement slope from here on up is much steeper
>>>and I rather not waste my time implementing features that I can't properly
>>>test.
>>>
>>>regards,
>>>--tom
>>
>>
>>
>>That's the secret of real professional chess programmers.
>>
>>When you have a good testing methodology, you do not need to be a genius
>>anymore. I mean you do not have to rely on your genius anymore. You just try any
>>strange idea and see if it works or not. All you need then is a lot of time (try
>>dedicating 5 computers or more to the task, and let them run 24/24) and some
>>cocai... I mean cafeine. :)
>
>
>I find that a nice, hot cup of tea and a some yogurt (yoplait) does wonders for
>the soul...
>
>Dan
As long as it is legal in the country where you live... :)
Christophe
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