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Subject: Re: KRBKNN ... and KRNKNN

Author: margolies,marc

Date: 11:22:27 04/30/04

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since you ask, i think you should teach kindergartners scholastic tournaments
rules because that is their social condition.
If their chess-culture develops, we can expect more from them and teach them
more than that.
these kids don't need to understand all the rules of tournament chess. I doubt
that many of their instructors know the name of the tie break-system to use
(that they do use) in tournaments, or if there is more than one system possible,
as an example.

On April 30, 2004 at 13:45:58, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On April 30, 2004 at 13:41:15, margolies,marc wrote:
>
>>so when you raised the issue of kindergartners in your own post, were you
>>talking about kindergartners who need to use FIDE rules? I don't understand.
>>-marc
>
>Yes, you teach the kids the FIDE rules, what else should you teach them?
>
>If you touch that piece you must move it, when castling you grab the king first
>etc..
>This is the number 2 thing they are tought in our club, first thing is how to
>move the pieces of course.
>
>I do not want for anyone, be it a GM's or a kindergarten kid, to have to
>memorize special rules for 500 different type endgames.
>
>That's all I'm saying, let's keep it simple :)
>
>-S.
>
>
>>On April 30, 2004 at 13:37:00, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2004 at 13:31:59, margolies,marc wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Sune,
>>>>that difference in the application of standards already exists-- a distinction
>>>>in application of rules-- without regard to whatever I want, so don't hang that
>>>>on me personally, please.
>>>
>>>I think the 50 move rule, en passant, how to castle etc. is pretty much
>>>standard.
>>>
>>>>Here is an example (since I live in the USA) FIDE tournament rules differ from
>>>>USCF rules.
>>>
>>>The FIDE rules are the ones I am talking about, how people choose to do things
>>>elsewhere is their business. The kids on the corner also make up their own rules
>>>probably.
>>>
>>>>The open section where professionals play often need to use FIDE
>>>>Rules in 9-round events so that players can earn norms. The other sections do
>>>>not need this particular qualification.
>>>>Here is an example of a rule difference in castling:..In FIDE rules, one must
>>>>move the king first (touch move). But in USCF rules there is no penalty for
>>>>touching and moving the rook before the King.
>>>>I can see the practical point of this when most (or many) USCF tournaments are
>>>>probably scholastic, and yes, kindergartners play.
>>>>best to you-Marc
>>>
>>>Thats fine, but I think it is a little beside the point :)
>>>
>>>-S.



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