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Subject: Re: Funding opportunity WCCC 2004

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 05:14:53 05/18/04

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On May 18, 2004 at 07:17:49, Mark Winands wrote:

Scrabble already conquered the world years ago as a boardgame.

The other games you describe i didn't start engine for of course because of
these reasons. If someone offers money then to play a certain game and it is
trademarked you notice that of course.

Note that i have worked before for new invented games and always it ended in
trouble because the patent owner wanted to make certain choices and try to get
every penny he could find on the floor, thereby eliminating himself even from
signing a deal with big distributors.

So if this time some coins can be earned with a game and it is patented i will
definitely ring the bell that i dislike working with patented games.

Note that a patent doesn't last forever, so i guess scrabble by now no longer is
patented.

>Dear Vincent,
>
>I appreciate you interest in Octi. As you probably know an Octi tournament was
>already described in the ICGA Journal, Vol. 25, No. 2, "Computers and Octi:
>Report from the 2001 Tournament". There is a valid AI interest in this game.
>
>What I don't understand is your complaint of patent games. They are nothing new
>at the Olympiad:
>
>Scrabble (registered trademark of HASBRO): There was a scrabble tournament at
>the first four computer olympiads (1989,1990,1991,1992). At the seventh computer
>olympiad (2002) there was a man - machine match (Maven against the Dutch
>Champion) sponsored by the dutch scrabble association.
>
>Othello (registered trademark of Tsukuda): There was a othello tournament at the
>first four computer olympiads (1989,1990,1991,1992).
>
>Diplomacy (registered trademark of Avalon Hill):
>There was a man-machine match at the fourth computer olympiads (1992).
>
>There is Twixt (published by 3M) challenge. Even the status of LOA (since
>2000)is unclear  (you still can purchase it as a branded boxed game in Germany).
>
>This "wrong" move has been made for years. You should have complained years ago.
>Still I don't understand what is wrong about it.
>
>Best,
>
>Mark



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