Author: Matthew Hull
Date: 08:13:48 05/18/04
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On May 18, 2004 at 10:33:26, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >On May 18, 2004 at 10:22:21, Matthew Hull wrote: > >>On May 18, 2004 at 10:09:52, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>On May 18, 2004 at 10:06:30, Matthew Hull wrote: >>> >>>>On May 18, 2004 at 09:36:41, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 09:22:52, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 18, 2004 at 08:53:01, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>Right. How exactly would I have done that at the WMCCC in Jakarta? At >>the >>one >>>>in Paris. _NO_ internet access. _NO_ email access. Jakarta was >>a >>black hole. >>> >>>>>>>Fine, in Israel you _DO_ have internet access, and you _DO_ have email >>>>access. >> >>>>>> >>>>>>Fine. Nothing like _consistency_. Makes "planning" quite easy, would you >>>>not >>agree? >>>>> >>>>>In Graz there was Internet. In Maastricht there was internet. What's your >>>>>point? >>>> >>>> >>>>Then there was no need to make it a physical event, except as a means of >>>>excluding people with an economic barrier. >>> >>>Most conference all over the world still require physical presence. Ever >>wonder >why, when a video conference can substitute it? >> >> >>What good is a conference if people can't afford to attend? > >But people *do* attend. Almost all major conferences across the world require >physical presence So, if you want to be world champion at computer chess, it is not enough to have the strongest program. You must also have plenty of money -- not for a computer or software, mind you, because those are cheap, but money to afford to sit down at a table in a foreign land and play the moves MANUALLY. ????? Why send emails or talk in a chat forum when we can spend thousands of dollars on plane tickets and talk to each other in person? Why call someone on the telephone, when you can fly there and speak in person? Why have an internet chess club when everyone can just fly to one place and play chess together in person? This remote chess tournament stuff is really dumb, because we could spend the money in our savings accounts, travel to Israel and play computer chess moves by hand, all while I'm connected via the internet to my super-computer back in the USA. Wow, ain't technology grand. It's like in Star Wars where these guys commandeer their technologically advanced starships to travel half-way accross the galaxy to what? To have a sword fight! You are FORCING the tournament to be a physical event so that you can exclude competition. You can hold the event on the moon, and it's open to everyone. All you need to do is get enough money to buy a Saturn V rocket. "If you thought you could win, you would attend. All those that don't attend had no real chance of winning." >, and people from all over the world take part. There is no >substitute for physical presence. Don't forget that even though the programs >compete in this tournament, it is an event for programmers (humans), not for >machines... Rich humans. If you're not rich, you are excluded. Amateurs from far countries be damned. CCT includes people. ICGA excludes people based on economic ability. > > > >>The conference >>should have set up lectures for Internet broadcast and made tournament >>participation avialable via the internet. I mean, we've gone to all the >>trouble of developing this fabulous technology which connects the world, and >>these lame-brains are stuck in the 1970s. It's ludicrous. >> >> >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>In 1996 and 1997 Internet was not way as common and cheap as it is now. >>>>> >>>>>Assuming there had been no improvement in this regard is rather, well, >>>>>stupid. >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>GCP
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