Author: Reinhard Scharnagl
Date: 01:34:54 06/05/04
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On June 05, 2004 at 04:17:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On June 05, 2004 at 03:38:18, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote: > >>On June 05, 2004 at 02:48:39, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On June 04, 2004 at 18:39:13, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Since computer can hold and remember more Opening than any Human and they are at >>>>the level of the very best human players such as Kasparov, Anand and Kramnik' >>>>the need for Fischer Random Chess will become more popular in the next 5 years. >>>>Even a player such as former world champion Garry Kasparov who has incredible >>>>memorization capabilities, complained that he could not always remember his >>>>opening preparation. Therefore, it will become justifiable to match the very >>>>best human against the very vest FRC program. Probably very soon Shredder and >>>>Hiarcs will also be available in FRC. >>>> >>>>PS: There is no human brain that can compete with the mass storage device >>>>available for current PC. >>>> >>>>http://www.geocities.com/MIGHTORS1/Leko/Fischerandom1.html >>> >>> >>> Will FRC ever become so popular than classic chess? >>> I really doubt in particular for two reasons: humans >>> will even have more difficulties to keep up with >>> computers. And furthermore: humans like to play >>> according to patterns and firm rules: both is >>> almost impossible with FRC and at the beginning of >>> a game, all looks very chaotical. But the future >>> will tell ... >>> Kurt >> >>Hi Kurt, >> >>you wrote: ... all looks very chaotical ... but that is only >>a variant to the situation, where your opening knowledge has >>come to its end. Indeed that point is reached a 'little earlier' >>within FRC. But this is not a weakness of FRC but one of its >>main intentions. A creative postional and combinatorical game >>from its beginning has been created. >> >>Additionally to that there soon will be a new German book on FRC: >>[http://homepages.compuserve.de/rescharn/Down/FRC_Materialien.pdf] >>[http://homepages.compuserve.de/rescharn/Compu/fullchess1_e.html] >> >>Regards, Reinhard. > > Hi Reinhard Hi Kurt, > Oops: as soon as books are available for FRC, humans > chances to even get a draw vs computers will diminish > to zero. Under such prospects the development of FRC-books > is more a regress than a progress. Nowadays it is still > possible for me to draw a game against the best programs > from time to time ... but in FRC I think this will never > happen. And this will not at all courage me to play a > FRC-game vs a computer program. FRC is perhaps doomed > to failure before it has started to get some popularity. > Kurt I am very sure, that there is a misunderstanding between us. I am not talking on opening books for FRC which indeed would be very counter productive. And that would of course also be against my proposal to limit the size of chess programs when playing for Elo rangs (analysing bolides are not targetted by that). Therefore I wrote a (human readable) book with the intention to clear up such prejustices and misunderstandings which seem to play a role in such discussions. Regards, Reinhard.
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