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Subject: Re: The Insignificance of the CSS WM test of Meiler, Schumacher & Gurevich

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 03:47:16 06/23/04

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On June 23, 2004 at 05:50:48, Tony Werten wrote:

>On June 22, 2004 at 18:01:37, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On June 22, 2004 at 17:53:10, Franz Hagra wrote:
>>
>>>>For using this test suite “WM-Test” and to avoid
>>>>misunderstandings/misinterpretations of my test results I recommend to look at
>>>>the attached “readme.txt”.
>>>
>>>Only missing point is a little about the significancy of the figures!
>>>
>>>Hagra
>>
>>
>>I think that they think that the support from CSS is significance enough. This
>>is the same with the false public relations by ChessBase when they quote SSDF
>>results and rankings as if that had any specific value. This is here in the same
>>tradition. Hoax, nothing but hoax.
>>
>>If now someone feels unhappy let me explain that test results without
>>significance, without validity, without reliability - - that then they are
>>worthless. That's so simple and easy to understand.
>
>You're to unfriendly. It does give reliable and significant results.
>
>Just as long as the only question is "How well does a program score on this
>test".
>
>:)


Yes, of course, Tony, for that reason God has invented the term validity so that
such "tests" have at least _something_ in common with outer realities...
I think Bernhard made a fantastic demonstration in answering Thorsten about
MERCEDES limousines... :)

The whole topic could be shrinked to that something is generally known among
experts but one shouldn't talk about it in too clear language.



>
>Tony
>
>>
>>Finally as a footnote, it is extremely false to appear here in this forum,
>>dropping such nonsense results without any value and then quickly chicken out.
>>
>>"No, with you I can't debate here - because I have lost my arguments" - nonsense
>>- there are no arguments to defend the WM test of CSS.



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