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Subject: Re: Book learning?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:44:24 12/31/98

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On December 31, 1998 at 09:47:12, James T. Walker wrote:

>On December 31, 1998 at 08:55:03, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On December 31, 1998 at 07:38:05, Inmann Werner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anybody tell me how book learning works?
>>>The principle should be, mark good moves as good and bad moves as bad.
>>>But how can a program determine, what was a good or bad move?
>>>Werner
>>
>>Reduce the playing preference when you lose and raise when you win.
>>Other step of learning is a change in eval, e.g. from +2.20 to -1.50 then there
>>went s.th. wrong...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>Hello,
>This "Book Learning" thing seems over simple to me.  I wish a programmer would
>get on here and explain the real fine points to me also.  I'm bothered by the
>fine points of the whole thing.  For instance, when I play Junior vs Nimzo,
>Junior's book settings change in an attempt to only use winning lines (I
>assume).  This sounds good but what happens when I now take Junior and play
>against Fritz ?  Just because certain lines did not work good against Nimzo does
>not mean they are not good against Fritz does it ?  After 84 games against
>Nimzo, Junior was left playing only C4.  The first 10 games it played against
>Fritz 5.32 it got beat up.  Last nite I "Cleared" the book settings for Junior
>and started an auto232 match with Fritz 5.32 at Game/60.  This morning the score
>for Junior was 3 wins and 3 draws - no loses!  So it seems to me for book
>learning to work, you need to play a lot of games against one opponent.  Then if
>you change opponents, you need to reset the values to zero and start again.  Is
>this the way it should work ??
>Jim Walker

I have written up Crafty's "book learning" algorithm for the JICCA.  It is
scheduled for publication in the next (March I think) issue.  Once it is
published there, I'll see about putting a copy on the CCC resource board as
well...



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