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Subject: Re: Hydra is the perfect machine to cruch Kramnik or Kasparov

Author: Thomas Logan

Date: 17:48:26 08/24/04

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On August 24, 2004 at 20:33:08, Derek Paquette wrote:

>On August 24, 2004 at 15:50:20, Pallav Nawani wrote:
>
>>On August 24, 2004 at 14:22:10, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>Hydra is the perfect machine to cruch Kramnik or Kasparov due to the fact that
>>>Hydra is NOT commercial like Deeper Blue. I wonder if Hydra is already stronger
>>>than Deeper Blue, only if the owner of Deeper Blue can makes it available to
>>>play a match against Hydra.
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>Reality check:
>>
>>1. Hydra beat Shredder due to its superior hardware.
>>2. Human Vs Machine (like Kasparove Vs Deep Blue) games always have dice loaded
>>in favour of machines:
>>   (a) You can study all the games Kasparove played and accordingly plan your
>>openings/tweak your playing style, while Kasparove gets to analyze _none_ of the
>>deep blue games. This is a strong (and unfair) advantage.
>>   (b) Computer programs can use tablebases, allowing them perfect play in
>>endings - access to extra knowledge which humans don't have. Can Kasparov
>>consult a ending book during a match?
>>
>>Give kasparov 100 Hydra games to analyze & then play a match against him. He
>>will bury Hydra. He was able to go toe to toe with deep blue, a machine a order
>>of magnitude faster than Hydra. He can defintely handle Hydra.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Pallav
>
>Some information for you,
>Hydra has ALREADY played more games than kasparov will play in his lifetime on
>the playchess server under several accounts,
>
>Kasparov CAN study hydra games
>
>If he does, he will realize he cannot win, and decline the match offer, as it
>has become clear that humans no longer have the ability to punish, crush or beat
>computers in a tournament time control match.

I tend to agree

But it sure would be fun to watch no matter who wins

Tom



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