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Subject: Level 2 cache sizes and the rights of Tom Kerrigan

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 07:34:13 08/26/04

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On August 26, 2004 at 10:14:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 25, 2004 at 09:56:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On August 25, 2004 at 05:41:09, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>>
>>>On August 25, 2004 at 05:04:00, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 24, 2004 at 20:54:33, Christopher Conkie wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>>>
>>>>>It's all very interesting these differing opinions. I'm just wondering whether
>>>>>all the users who want to discuss about computer chess would like to go to
>>>>>USENET. I'm not sure that Steve thought it was a good idea either.
>>>>>
>>>>>You have got me facinated however. Where is this moderate, frugal, limited,
>>>>>ordinary place we should all go to talk about computer chess?
>>>>
>>>>http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&group=rec.games.chess.computer
>>>
>>>I'm neither pro or contra USENET here, but keep in mind, that the discussion
>>>style would change slightly. In USENET it can take up to a day until everyone
>>>can see the post. It's also possible that you see the answer to something w/o
>>>seeing the original question yet. Nothing wrong with that, but it's something
>>>different to how CCC works at the moment.
>>
>>A big problem of CCC is that it moves too fast and that searching in archives
>>never works and after a day or 2 all postings you did you can't read any reply
>>from anymore as they are gone. Usenet gets saved everywhere.
>>
>>A good example is that a few years ago here at CCC hyatt posted that he had
>>tested quad xeons with 1MB L2 cache versus Xeons with several MB's L2 cache and
>>saw zero difference in speed.
>
>Grow up.  There were _never_ xeons with "several MB's L2 cache".  I specifically
>tested 512K 1024K and 2048K.  The results I posted a few years back simply said
>"the larger cache is not worth the much larger cost."

>Feel free to make up whatever you want, of course.  You always do...

To be exact you posted there was 0% difference in speed between the different L2
cache sized Xeons.

Which renders your entire discussion with Tom Kerrigan as complete nonsense from
your side.

>
>>
>>Now we have a big thread here where he denies it.
>>
>>At RGCC such an idiocy would not happen. You search his old posting and dang, he
>>has to shut up.
>>
>>Now there have been tens of postings with Kerrigan in all his rights exploding
>>and Hyatt keeping posting nonsense.
>>
>>Even worse is that in CCC this nonsense gets posted within a few minutes. In
>>RGCC it takes at least 1 minute for your posting to show up and a few minutes
>>for world wide distribution.
>>
>
>
>Shows your ignorance of usenet news.  It all depends on how your local newsfeed
>is configured.  We send and receive usenet news articles _continuously_ here, so
>that there is little delay on our end.  If your local newsfeed only uploads
>every 15 minutes, you will see a 15 minute delay before your articles get out.
>But that isn't the case for general usenet news.
>
>
>
>
>
>>Note that if you want to pay for a message board system that will cost you the
>>big amount of 12 dollar a month, if you want your own root server with 1.2
>>terabyte bandwidth a month it goes up to 50 dollar a month soon.
>>
>>Starting a member paid message board system is the biggest idiocy i ever read
>>about.
>>
>>CCC is already reaching so little persons.
>>
>>Someone interested in computerchess will not soon find CCC. In fact they never
>>find it as you need a username and a password to login.
>>
>>I do not know a single computerchess enthusiast who found himself this forum.
>>
>>Now let alone people who are interested in computerchess but are not very
>>fanatical searching for information.
>>
>>>Also, messages which only make sense for a few minutes or hours (like
>>>game-number of a certain game in ICC) won't be possible anymore. Some people
>>>will consider this a good thing, others a bad thing.
>>>
>>>Another point is that moderation as it works here won't work there. You either
>>>have no moderation or you have a moderated group, where each post has to be
>>>approved first before it gets forwarded to the group. (at least I think that's
>>>how it works, please correct me if I'm wrong)
>>>
>>>Sargon



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