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Subject: Re: An important message to CCC members....

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:14:18 08/26/04

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On August 25, 2004 at 09:56:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On August 25, 2004 at 05:41:09, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>
>>On August 25, 2004 at 05:04:00, Graham Laight wrote:
>>
>>>On August 24, 2004 at 20:54:33, Christopher Conkie wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>>
>>>>It's all very interesting these differing opinions. I'm just wondering whether
>>>>all the users who want to discuss about computer chess would like to go to
>>>>USENET. I'm not sure that Steve thought it was a good idea either.
>>>>
>>>>You have got me facinated however. Where is this moderate, frugal, limited,
>>>>ordinary place we should all go to talk about computer chess?
>>>
>>>http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&group=rec.games.chess.computer
>>
>>I'm neither pro or contra USENET here, but keep in mind, that the discussion
>>style would change slightly. In USENET it can take up to a day until everyone
>>can see the post. It's also possible that you see the answer to something w/o
>>seeing the original question yet. Nothing wrong with that, but it's something
>>different to how CCC works at the moment.
>
>A big problem of CCC is that it moves too fast and that searching in archives
>never works and after a day or 2 all postings you did you can't read any reply
>from anymore as they are gone. Usenet gets saved everywhere.
>
>A good example is that a few years ago here at CCC hyatt posted that he had
>tested quad xeons with 1MB L2 cache versus Xeons with several MB's L2 cache and
>saw zero difference in speed.

Grow up.  There were _never_ xeons with "several MB's L2 cache".  I specifically
tested 512K 1024K and 2048K.  The results I posted a few years back simply said
"the larger cache is not worth the much larger cost."

Feel free to make up whatever you want, of course.  You always do...


>
>Now we have a big thread here where he denies it.
>
>At RGCC such an idiocy would not happen. You search his old posting and dang, he
>has to shut up.
>
>Now there have been tens of postings with Kerrigan in all his rights exploding
>and Hyatt keeping posting nonsense.
>
>Even worse is that in CCC this nonsense gets posted within a few minutes. In
>RGCC it takes at least 1 minute for your posting to show up and a few minutes
>for world wide distribution.
>


Shows your ignorance of usenet news.  It all depends on how your local newsfeed
is configured.  We send and receive usenet news articles _continuously_ here, so
that there is little delay on our end.  If your local newsfeed only uploads
every 15 minutes, you will see a 15 minute delay before your articles get out.
But that isn't the case for general usenet news.





>Note that if you want to pay for a message board system that will cost you the
>big amount of 12 dollar a month, if you want your own root server with 1.2
>terabyte bandwidth a month it goes up to 50 dollar a month soon.
>
>Starting a member paid message board system is the biggest idiocy i ever read
>about.
>
>CCC is already reaching so little persons.
>
>Someone interested in computerchess will not soon find CCC. In fact they never
>find it as you need a username and a password to login.
>
>I do not know a single computerchess enthusiast who found himself this forum.
>
>Now let alone people who are interested in computerchess but are not very
>fanatical searching for information.
>
>>Also, messages which only make sense for a few minutes or hours (like
>>game-number of a certain game in ICC) won't be possible anymore. Some people
>>will consider this a good thing, others a bad thing.
>>
>>Another point is that moderation as it works here won't work there. You either
>>have no moderation or you have a moderated group, where each post has to be
>>approved first before it gets forwarded to the group. (at least I think that's
>>how it works, please correct me if I'm wrong)
>>
>>Sargon



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