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Subject: Re: Another Vincent "masterpiece

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:44:45 08/30/04

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On August 29, 2004 at 21:27:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>Here is a quote from ICC:
>
>quote on===================================================
>DIEP(C DM)(64): because they claimed having 'solved' chess and people like hyatt
>supporting that indirectly (by saying that nothing ever can get better than that
>old program)
>quote off==================================================
>
>This is _another_ case where I want to see a _specific_ quote, or a specific
>citation for an article where I made that statement (nothing can ever get better
>than DB).  I've never said it.  I've never implied it.  In fact, I have been
>quoted more than once where I predicted that hardware would eventually take us
>well beyond DB's speed/performance.
>
>My quote was that in 1997, it would take 10+ years for a micro-computer based
>program to approach DB's speed.  Today I can hit 10M nodes per second on a quad
>opteron, 20M on an 8-way.  Probably approaching 40M on a 16-way box.  That isn't
>as fast as DB, but it is in the ballpark.  And I still have 3 more years on my
>"prediction".  Next year AMD has promised a dual-core opteron, so that 16-way
>box will instantly become a 32-way box.  80M if there is no clock speed
>improvement, yet they say it will be faster via clock as well.  So 2007 may be
>enough time to hit 200M roughly, if not more.

I agree that vincent's claim had no basis but remember that there is a
difference between better and faster.

I do not believe that humans are close to writing the best software and
I believe that improvement in software that is equivalent to being 100 times
faster is possible.

Uri



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