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Subject: Re: IBM hired the wrong people because it won?

Author: blass uri

Date: 11:57:48 01/11/99

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On January 11, 1999 at 14:16:13, KarinsDad wrote:

>On January 11, 1999 at 13:31:01, blass uri wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Or, depending on who you believe, Kasparov tried that sequence of moves out
>>>against Fritz over and over and won every game, even if fritz did sacrifice
>>>the piece on e6.  To date no computer has been able to win the white side of
>>>this game against a strong human (or computer) opponent.  So even this game
>>>shows that DB is fearsome...
>>
>>The question is if the black side played the same as kasparov and the computers
>>with white failed to win because they did not follow deep blue's good moves.
>>
>>I think that kasparov's move Qe7 was not the right move and he should play
>>fxe6(this is not the only mistake of kasparov in the game) and this prove that
>>he was not ready for this line.
>
>Uri,
>
>Please explain something here to me. I do not have the game you are referring to
>in front of me, but I do not understand your point.
>
>Every human player has a set of opening and variation information, be it to move
>2 or to move 20 in a given variation. A player can understand the ideas of a
>variation without necessarily knowing it cold (to 25 moves or some such). If a
>given variation seems to be strong against computers (as per Robert's posting),
>I can easily envision someone of Kasparov's talent playing the line, even if he
>does not know it cold.
>
>What does your claim of "this proves that he was not ready for this line" mean?
>Does it mean that he only knew it to move 12? or move 14? or move 18?

I mean that he was not prepared to play it at move 8
His 7th move was a move that he did not recommend in the batsford chess opening
book.

I think that the move was not a mistake but he was not prepared to play this
move.

There were 2 theory moves in Move 8 and I believe that he chose the wrong one.

This was the opinion of me and also the opinion of a grandmaster that I talked
with him.

I also heard that kasparov looked surprised after Deeper blue played the theory
move 8.Nxe6.


 Just
>because Kasparov made mistakes does not mean that he is not familiar with a
>given line. Maybe he saw something that you do not and he was incorrect in his
>evaluation. Or maybe he prepared a line and missed a continuation. Nobody can
>really tell. The most your example seems to "prove" is that Kasparov made a
>mistake.
>
>Do you understand why your statement confuses me?

I understand but the mistake Qe7 was early in the game and I believe kasparov
could know that fxe6 is better than Qxe7 if he looked at games of other players.

Uri



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