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Subject: Re: Commercial release versions of chess software ... bad and good!

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 10:16:30 11/05/04

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On November 05, 2004 at 06:41:20, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On November 04, 2004 at 17:26:08, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>Hi,

Hi,

>
>I believe we have the same opinion :-)
>So we don't have to discuss a longer time :-))

OK!

>
>>I always supported the idea of promoting more than one program. I always told
>>people to try to buy 2 or 3 programs every year based on the way they use the
>>programs and to use them to learn if this is what they would like.
>>Some people are not willing to lose games or too many games, but I am ready to
>>lose them all if this can improve my way to play.
>>I cannot do this with Kasparov as he would get bored soon, but a chess program
>>will play forever the way a user want, so it is a marvellous tool to help people
>>to improve their way to play.
>>Now that we have programs playing close to the way I always wanted and good
>>enough to be able to teach indirectly how to play. I mean winning and showing
>>weaknesses on the opponents, most people do not buy them as they did some years
>>ago.
>>Many players keep saying that the ones they have are already too strong, so they
>>do not need a stronger one.
>>Well, if you let play latest chess programs against older ones one can see that
>>they would be beaten easily most of the time. This shows that they were not so
>>strong, but still weak and the players who do not know how to win are only
>>weakers than them. The only way to learn is to be able to play against strongest
>>players, after reading chess books and see what is in the books.
>>I mean that more people should buy chess programs now that in the past like
>>other computer games that are now much better as being more realistic also due
>>to a better graphics...
>
>I agree with you.
>
>>No, I think everybody can have his own opinion and we have to respect other's
>>opinions.
>
>Yes!
>
>>I do not like to judge other chess programs, but prefer other people to judge
>>them.
>
>This is right!
>On the other hand not easy to give a comment if a keyboard is in the near :-)
>
>>I get fun to make the openings book and I am satisfied if the people like them,
>>but then immediately I start thinking how to make them better...maybe I am a
>>little too crazy...I guess I am crazy about chess and chess programs since a
>>long time...anybody has a medicine for this?
>
>No Sandro!
>One time computer chess, computer chess for ever!
>You have the same problem as others and this is your problem to solved it.

Thanks for the help:-)

>You make it with your Shredder book, I have fun on the compatibility we have
>today (my main interest, try to power it with Arena and I am happy that I found
>Martin to do it). I am so far a happy computer chess player and have no more
>wishes. All what I need for do my hobby I have, OK I am searching an older Chess
>Computer modul (RISC 1 by Ed) :-))
>
>Medicine:
>A girlfriend with understandings is important!
>The best medicine for me :-)
>
>My girlfriend hold the cup in Leiden, we won with Ruffian.
>Lisa sent the cup with a tablet of my favorite chocolate to Per-Ola :-)
>
>We need more ladys in computer chess fora and the most of the discuss have an
>other niveau.
>
>A lot of things we do with Arena are ideas from Lisa and the ideas are good.
>The secret lady of Arena developement :-)
>
>Believe me a good medicine!
>And she has Italien luck and temparament :-))

:-)

>
>In the time we tested Ruffian without ponder vs. Shredder 7.04 Lisa give the
>comment ... Frank give up, Ruffian is in the near but Shredder is a tic better!
>I say Lisa wait, tomorrow in the morning you can see Ruffian is in front. She go
>looking in the night and say to me, Frank today we drive an the town and make us
>a good day before you go to your PC :-))

:-)
>
>Best
>Frank
>
Ciao
Sandro



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