Author: Dana Turnmire
Date: 08:23:22 12/10/04
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Wouldn't it test the evaluation function? Just a thought. >On December 09, 2004 at 14:07:04, Murat wrote: > >> >> >>White: Fritz 6 on a fixed depth of 6 plys and selective option in the engine >>parameters changed to 0 from the defoult 2. > >I really don't see what this proves. Suppose you take the Mephisto Genius and >run it at 6 plies, do you think they will be examining the same depth? Not in a >million years as Lang's programs were highly selective. The fact is that if you >were able to speed up the Mach III to the speed of a P90 and play it on equal >hardware so to speak, it would most likely get *slaughtered* by Fritz 6. One >need only look at the SSDF list and see the huge disparity of ratings on >identical hardware of older and newer programs. > >Let's take Shredder 7 for example. On a K6/450 it is rated 2699. This rating >represents its ability to beat other programs, which is exactly the subject of >your post. Mind you, it is probably rated a good 30 points less than the 7.04. > >Well, I can see the culmination of Lang's programs on this list, the Genius 6.5, >also tested on the K6/450. It is rated 2478, or well over 200 points less. The >Mach III was far less developed, so it is safe to assume that had it somehow >been ported to the PC as was, it would do a lot worse. > > Albert > >>I did take Fritz out of book after >>move 17 since the Mach III run out of its book at that point. >> >>Black: Chess Challenger Excel68000 Mach III at level G6 which is fixed at 6ply. >> >>[Event "Fixed level at 6 ply"] >>[Date "2004.12.09"] >>[White "Fritz 6"] >>[Black "ChessChallengerMachIII"] >>[Result "0-1"] >>[ECO "B90"] >> >>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8. f3 >>d5 9. exd5 Bxd5 10. Nxd5 Nxd5 11. Qd3 Nc6 12. Rd1 Nxe3 13. Qxe3 Bd6 14. Bd3 >>Qh4+ 15. g3 Qe7 16. O-O Nb4 17. Bf5 O-O 18. c3 g6 19. f4 gxf5 20. cxb4 e4 21. >>Nd4 Bxb4 22. Nxf5 Qc5 23. Nd4 Qe7 24. a3 Bc5 25. b4 Bb6 26. Rf2 Rac8 27. f5 Qe5 >>28. f6 Qh5 29. g4 Qg6 30. g5 Rfd8 31. Rfd2 Qh5 32. Re1 Qg4+ 33. Kf1 Rxd4 34. >>Rxd4 Rc2 35. Rd8+ Bxd8 36. Qg3 Qf5+ 37. Kg1 Bb6+ 38. Kh1 Bc7 39. Rd1 Rxh2+ 40. >>Kg1 Rh3 41. Qxh3 Qxh3 0-1 >> >>I think the high ratings today's programs enjoy are 80% due to the advances of >>hardware and 20% in actual programming improvement. >> >>I must say bravo Dan&Kate Spracklen, hell of a job. >> >>All the best >> >>Murat...
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