Author: Richard Harrison
Date: 12:02:58 01/02/05
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On January 02, 2005 at 14:39:19, Uri Blass wrote: >On January 02, 2005 at 09:51:53, Richard Harrison wrote: > >>On January 02, 2005 at 07:33:04, Thomas Logan wrote: >> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>Is the Shredder 8 program being used the UCI version (w/ Shredders opening >>>>>book)? I asked because I have found a very noticeable difference in strength >>>>>between S8 in the chessbase GUI and S8 using the classical GUI at 40/2. >>>>> >>>>>Rich >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>It's the Fritz interface one. >>>>Is the classic version significantly stronger? >>> >>>At 40/2 Shredder 8uci with classic gui and shredder8a.bkt overwhelmed Junior 9 >>> >>>in my autoplay games >>> >>>Tom >> >>Just as a quick example, I played S8-Chessbase and S8-Classic against S7.04 >> >>[Identical machines - moves manually input - 40/2] >> >>First to achieve 10 wins. Here are the results: >> >>Shredder 8 (ChessBase)vs. Shredder 7.04 >> >>S8-CB 10 (3 wins) >>S7.04 17 (10 wins) >> >>Shredder 8 (Classic GUI) vs. Shredder 7.04 >> >>S8-Classic 22 (10 wins) >>S7.04 16 (4 wins) >> >>It's hard for me to believe that only the opening book made such a dramatic >>difference. >> >>Rich > >This difference is not a big difference. > >Imagine that you add a killer line against every line of Shredder7.04 in the >opening book of S8-classic. > >The result can be 38-0 and not 22-16 for S8-classic. > >Uri Hi Uri, Thanks for your comments and of course, I cannot disagree. The S8-Classic simply destroys opponents with much more conviction than S8-Chessbase. For example, S8-CB struggled against Chessmaster 9000 which is a strong program @ 40/2. S8-Classic destroyed Chessmaster with ease. When I have time, I'll have to setup positions to compare both Shredders. The opening book makes a difference but I still feel Shredder playing in its native GUI (Classical) plays a better overall game. Rich
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