Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:04:02 02/25/05
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On February 25, 2005 at 13:11:35, Roger D Davis wrote: >On February 25, 2005 at 12:44:19, Zheng Zhixian wrote: > >>On February 25, 2005 at 10:58:36, Roger D Davis wrote: >> >>>On February 25, 2005 at 06:26:37, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: >>> >>>>On February 25, 2005 at 06:16:39, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 25, 2005 at 02:16:34, Tony Nichols wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 25, 2005 at 01:43:26, Roger D Davis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On February 25, 2005 at 01:34:47, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On February 24, 2005 at 17:42:33, Roger D Davis wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On February 24, 2005 at 13:56:22, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>This statement at the tournament site is interesting. Is it really stronger >>>>>>>>>>than even the strongest humans? What about postal chess? >>>>>>>>>>Just asking. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Just think how many games Kasparov or Anand would have to play versus Hydra in >>>>>>>>>order for the result to be statistically significant...it would have to be some >>>>>>>>>absurd number. And you couldn't make a definitive statement without a >>>>>>>>>statistically significant difference. Yet, as far as I know, neither Kasparov or >>>>>>>>>Anand has played Hydra. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Well I don't know how many games it would take to be statistically siginificant >>>>>>>>but if a program could beat either Kasparov/Anand by say 4-0 or maybe 5-1 I >>>>>>>>personally would be convinced. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>There would, however, be any number of excuses. Moreover, as you might remember, >>>>>>>Kaspy was down like 6-0 in his first match against Karpov, and came back to win. >>>>>>>But a 4-0 win which definitely raise confidence in Hydra, and set the stage for >>>>>>>a big money rematch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Roger >>>>>> >>>>>>Kasparov did not come back to win his match against Karpov. The match was >>>>>>stopped by fide. Kasparov won the next match. >>>>>>Regards >>>>>>Tony >>>>> >>>>>kasparov won 3 games in the match and the match was stopped because karpov >>>>>wanted to stop it. >>>>> >>>>>It is clear that karpov felt that he simply cannot win that match(otherwise he >>>>>could continue the match). >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>I think you got this wrong. If my memory don't try to fool me, both players >>>>wanted to continue but the arbiter stoped the match (health problem by Karpov). >>>>It was said this was an advantage for Karpov but anyhow he wanted to continue. >>>> >>>>Odd Gunnar >>> >>>You wouldn't expect Karpov to say publically, "Hey, thanks for stopping the >>>match, it was looking pretty bad for me there." >> >>Yes, except I recall reading in a book by Kasparov himself that Karpov was also >>opposed to ending the match. I dont see why Kasparov would want to claim that, >>unless it was true. >> >>Unless, BOTH of them wanted the match stopped, but didnt want it to be known :) > >It was certainly a strange turn of events. I guess we'll never know exactly what >happened, and why. I read about it also in a book. Based on what I understood karpov did not want to lose his 5-3 advantage so he also asked to continue the 24 game match with advantage of 2-0 after it was stopped but this was not accepted. Maybe karpov protested some months after the match when the decision was to do a new match and I did not read more details. I do not know how much time after the decision to stop the match it was clear that there is going to be a new match when karpov does not start it from 2-0. I read that kasparov protested about the decision to stop the match at the same time that it was given. I did not read that karpov did it at that time. Uri
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