Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 16:50:14 03/09/05
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On March 09, 2005 at 19:18:05, Heinz van Kempen wrote: >Hi Tord :-), > >yes, I saw of course that you mainly reacted to Karl-Heinz and in my opinion it >was very unlucky that he initially and over many hours did not gave the full >information he had in this forum and only in "Schachwerkstatt". > >So I wanted to make clear that I already had this information, before I posted >about similarities in games output. I would not have posted them without the >other evidence, would have extended my tests to 100 positions and more to decide >if to take Toga into CEGT, that is a very CPU time consuming event. Probably we >would have renounced to take it in and I would have simply send an email to >Karl-Heinz and the author asking if we are dealing with an engine very similar >to Fruit. > >I appreciate that Fabien, you and others want to do something positive for all >the authors and give them some more clues, but it apparently involves that there >will almost "paste and copy clones". Luckily those will be the easiest to >detect, but cloners will learn to be more clever. In the same way, there will always be plaguarists. This was odd to me: From http://www.galeschools.com/black_history/bio/haley_a.htm : "A 1977 lawsuit brought by Margaret Walker charged that Roots plagiarized her novel Jubilee. Another author, Harold Courlander also filed a suit charging that Roots plagiarized his novel The African. Courlander received a settlement after several passages in Roots were found to be almost verbatim from The African. Haley claimed that researchers helping him had given him this material without citing the source." >For us testers there is simply the question if it is not better to opt for the >other way. First not to include engines that are already very strong with their >first release, not include betas without versions already released and just wait >and see until we can be sure that they are based mainly on own work and genius. I don't think that genius is as important as you might think. It's probably closer to Edison's description of genius as "1% inspiration and 99% perspiration"
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