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Subject: Re: Which is better?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 13:49:55 04/24/05

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On April 24, 2005 at 16:45:12, John Merlino wrote:

>On April 24, 2005 at 16:40:26, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On April 24, 2005 at 16:28:06, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>>
>>>On April 24, 2005 at 15:05:41, John Merlino wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 24, 2005 at 14:31:52, Jack Lad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[d] 6nr/p2rkp1n/1pQRq1pp/1N2P3/8/4BN1P/PPP2PP1/2K4R w
>>>>>
>>>>>1.Nc7 or Nfd4?
>>>>>
>>>>>Or can they both mate in the same number of moves?
>>>>
>>>>Playing through the lines, it appears that:
>>>>
>>>>1.Nc7 is a Mate in 9.
>>>>
>>>>1.Nfd4 is a Mate in 11.
>>>>
>>>>jm
>>>
>>>3 best moves from ChessMaster 10 (AMD@3000+)
>>>
>>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>>9:38	1/13	Mate09	233251425	1.Nc7 Rxc7 2.Qxc7+ Kf8 3.Rxe6 Kg7
>>>					4.Nh4 Ng5 5.Bxg5 Ne7 6.Bf6+ Kh7
>>>					7.Qxe7 Rf8 8.Qxf8 fxe6 9.Qg7#
>>
>>You need to be careful with 1.Nc7. If CMX is anything like Ruffian, it will get
>>a mate score, lose it, get it again only to lose it again while shifting from a
>>best response to it of Rxc7, Nf8, Qf5 and Ngf6 all the while. Ruffian had a
>>tough time with 1.Nc7. It took 5 times longer to reach the same depth of 14 that
>1.Rxe6 got and ultimately lost the mate score.
>
>Chessmaster will never lose a mate score for the side to move. Once it reports a
>mate, the only thing it can do is possibly report a shorter mate.
>
>Therefore, my "playing with the lines" (which you comment on in another post)
>was merely to ensure that there was no shorter mate than the ones that The King
>found relatively quickly.
>
>jm

Okay. I did not know that CM enforced the property of never losing a mate score.
Interesting.



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