Author: Keith Evans
Date: 21:18:07 04/26/05
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On April 26, 2005 at 17:05:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 26, 2005 at 16:45:02, chandler yergin wrote: > >>On April 26, 2005 at 16:35:03, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 26, 2005 at 15:46:33, chandler yergin wrote: >>> >>>>On April 26, 2005 at 14:44:22, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 26, 2005 at 12:29:27, chandler yergin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program >>>>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match! >>>>>> >>>>>>The Deep Blue Team won it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>No it wasn't >>>>> >>>>>It was a three stage prize. The first for the author of the first computer to >>>>>achieve a master chess rating. Awarded to Belle in 1983. The second for the >>>>>first program to produce a 2600 performance rating over 25 consecutive games >>>>>against grandmaster players in long (40 moves in 2 hours or slower) games. >>>>>Awarded to deep thought in the early 1990's. The final stage was to beat the >>>>>world champion in a match. Awarded to IBM in 1997. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Your point would be??? >>>> >>>>As I Posted! >>>> >>>>The Fredkin Prize was $100,000 for the first team to build or program >>>>a computer that would defeat the World Champion in a Match! >>>> >>>>Awarded to IBM in 1997. >>>> >>>>What don't you understand? >>>> >>>>What do the previous stages have to do with what happened in 1997? >>>> >>>>Why do deliberately try and Provoke me? >>>>Hmmm? >>> >>>I answered that earlier. IBM spent _millions_ of dollars on the deep blue >>>project. The salaries were about $1M per year for the entire team, spread over >>>10 years. Not to mention the hardware, the public relations setup, the expenses >>>for Kasparov. The prize fund. And they did all of that to win $100,000.00??? >> >>It wasn't about IBM.. it was for the TEAM! They, wanted to win at any cost.. >> >>The Fredkin Prize was for the Team that built or Progammed one that could beat >>the World Champion! >> >>I explained that.. and so did HSU. > >Any idea who ended up with the $100,000 check? > >Didn't think so... > I would think that we both agree that the check is irrelevent. They wanted to win the Fredkin prize is was for the recognition, not for the check. Hsu could have made many times more money by staying away from computer chess. It's like getting a check from Donald Knuth. You frame it and put it on the wall, you don't cash it. Chandler - do you have any idea how well compensated talented chip designers are? Salary and stock options? After Hsu graduated from CMU, he could have come to the Silicon Valley and worked at Cisco, Sun, ... and made far more money than he got from IBM. You read the book so you know how hard he worked both at CMU and IBM. Motivation for that kind of work does not come from money. What you should be upset about is that such a talent was so insulted, that he decided to walk from the computer chess scene. Imagine working so hard for over 10 years on a project, and then getting the reaction that he got. Have you ever worked that hard creating something? Succeeded? And then somebody trashes your creation?
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