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Subject: Re: New processorgenaration and chessprograms

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 16:08:29 02/05/99

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On February 05, 1999 at 18:51:15, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
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>I don't beleive *any* current machine (let alone Cray or some
>1000-CPU animals) will handle 6-man tables in a near future.
>Even if you'll write generator in a better way than mine was
>written (I made some design decisions that simplified it, but
>slowed it down and/or increased its RAM usage), it'll still
>work for a month to generate simple pawnless TB. Size of the
>TB will be ~55 time larger than for average 5-man TB. 10Gb
>for single TB (or 100Gb for complete set - including one TB
>with pawns and all promotion cases) will be too much for a
>reasonable machine in the next few years.
Imagine a machine with the power of Deep Blue to do the calculations.  Or even
an updated Deep Blue with 64000 Chess chips.  Such a thing would be childs play.
 Actually, 100G is much smaller than I imagined, considering the jumps from 3 to
4 piece and 4 to 5 piece.  There are already database servers with
multi-terabyte database systems and Petabyte is not far off.  I believe that
such a database is not only possible, but could be produced in a month with
existing technology.  Even distributed.net could probably produce it in a few
months.  And 100 gigs of disk is about $1500 now.  Not exactly pocket change,
but not a king's ransom either.

>I agree that after those years Alpha will be better suited for
>handling of those huge resources than x86. But I still beleive
>that Intel will resolve its problems with IA-64, as it resolved
>problems with CISC that many beleived will forever harm x86. Or
>that something else will happen. Five years is a very long term
>when you are talking about computers.
You are probably right about progress and Intel, as they have excellent
engineers and excellent fascilities.  I also think that DEC will march ahead
too.  It will be interesting to see what happens in the 64 bit work and even 128
bit (I suppose those integers will be long long long or some other abomination.
Maybe 'ludicrous long' or 'enormous long').




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