Author: Komputer Korner
Date: 17:54:18 05/16/05
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On May 14, 2005 at 19:53:50, Eelco de Groot wrote: >On May 14, 2005 at 17:16:48, Komputer Korner wrote: > >>On May 14, 2005 at 16:34:13, Komputer Korner wrote: >> >>>On May 14, 2005 at 09:35:57, Eelco de Groot wrote: >>> >>>>On May 14, 2005 at 03:03:47, Komputer Korner wrote: >>>> >>>>>Does anyone know where i can get the best Xboard engine for Chess Position >>>>>trainer. It's help file doesn't mention anything about engines but the program >>>>>clearly allows X board engines. these have been around a long time if i >>>>>remember. But my memory is failing me and i have lost all of my old files with >>>>>the computer chess info. Also I know that winboard is still alive and well. i >>>>>used to enjoy the engine matches within Winboard. I seem to recall that the >>>>>original interface was Xboard. Shouldn't Crafty work with Chess Position >>>>>trainer? >>>> >>>>Hi Komputer Korner. You are something of a legend! Good to see that you have >>>>some time for computer chess again. >>>> >>>>Unfortunately I know very little about Winboard and XBoard. I thought that >>>>XBoard only works with UNIX. Is Chess Position Trainer a Unix/Linux program? If >>>>it is Windows it probably supports Winboard? For documentation about Winboard >>>>and XBoard, Tim Mann would be the man to ask, and his homepage has all the >>>>protocol information etc: http://www.tim-mann.org/ >>>> >>>>For Winboard engines the site from Leo Dijksman probably has them all: >>>>http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/ >>>>My favourite Winboard engine would be Pro Deo 1.1 from Ed Schröder, and it is on >>>>his site http://members.home.nl/matador/index.htm >>>> >>>>But there are many many strong engines these days! Spike, SlowChess, List, >>>>Crafty, Ruffian 1.01 and 1.05, Aristarch 4.50, Fruit and modified Fruit/Toga are >>>>just a few of the names of non-commercial engines that I know. >>>> >>>>Best regards, >>>> Eelco >>> >>> >>>CPT is a windows program. However it doesn't have any instructions on how to set >>>up the engine for analysis but I assume that you simply put the engine into the >>>same directory and the program will recognize it. Thanks for the tips. >> >>I tried the PRODEO download from the Rebel site. The installation hangs at the >>white.eoc file. > > >That is a pity, Komputer Korner. If you tried to install it in CPT, maybe there >is more to it than putting the engine in the same directory. For installation >under Chessbase or Lokasoft, you have to make the engine known by importing it >(that is in the readme.text) But the CPT-program should have instructions about >where to install analysis engines, if it is capable of that. I read the online >helpfile and it did not mention how to do that. So I'm not that sure it is >possible? > >White.EOC is the last file in the Pro Deo directory, so it makes sense that a >failed installation should stop there. It is only three bytes long and only >contains a zero, as far as Notepad can see. > >If you have the Lokasoft interface, that is the surest way of installing Pro Deo >1.1. Chessbase is possible but I can't tell you much about that as I don't have >it, sorry. > > Best regards, > Eelco I posted a question in the CPT forum and the programmer responded back within 12 hours. he pointed me to a link whereby I was able to download Crafty-19-17FEN.exe and then simply had to go into CPT and choose Extra/Option/ChessEngines and the Browse button to point to the Crafty exe and after checking the analysis checkbox, voila, you have engine analysis. The Option screen doesn't maximize at first so you have to manually maximize it but after you do the ChessEngines submenu clearly shows. THE BIG PROBLEM IS THAT THE ENGINE ANALYSIS WINDOW SORTS THE MOVE PLY LIST BY EVALUATION AND NOT BY PLY LENGTH. This results in the best and last ply move often being in the middle of the window. I am getting soured on all these opening training database programs. Unless you have a large well put together openings tree like the ChessBase powerbook, then your repertoire will always have a lot of holes in it. Anybody starting their opening book from scratch is only fooling themselves. It will take too many years building it up to make it worthwhile compared to using the Chessbase powerbook tree and adjusting it yourself. However the ChessBase Powerbook tree should have annotations already factory installed by a GM. Does anybody know of a generalized opening book like the Powerbook but with annotations already built in by a GM? Does Bookup come with a huge opening book with GM annotations or at least with Chess engine annotations already built in?
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